Crosby 20 Footer for Rudder

[Landrith]

Anyone hear of the Rudder 20 footer being built? I got D N Goodchild's reprint of the plans. Looks like and American Dragon or economy Skerry cruiser. Maybe the size of the Interclub or something.

I was unable to find plans for the Yankee ( no response ever from their web site or CWB. The Atlantic is great but plans were burnt. I was hoping this would be fun on Midwestern res/lakes and keep up with the plastic boats in informal races.
http://www.dngoodchild.com/5445.jpg


http://www.dngoodchild.com/divide_for_sail_boats.htm

[johnw]

Sarah may not be checking the Yankee web site very often. I've seen plans for the Yankee, but I haven't seen offsets, which you'd need to make a precise version of the hull.

My experience with Yankees is that when the wind is above 15 knots, they leave a lot of more modren boats behind. Below this, the small sail area and large wetted surface hold them back. What are the conditions where you sail?

[Rick Starr]

I have those plans too, and revisit them frequently. I'd also be interested in any further info.

[Landrith]

I sail in light summer winds mostly. Last Saturday, 15 mph white caps just showing with gusts and I snapped my centerboard on the Windmill and it got a little hairy. Later the 18 plus footer small cabin sloops came out and were really enoying the conditions.

The Yankee scores high with me because it seems to be a practical single hand cruiser for all sorts of weather, another use or valuable potential use than informal racing.

I am guessing the Rudder 20 comes out in the stronger winds= better category. Not sure if the wider beam aft equals the Dragon's extra 3 feet length for speed.

[johnw]

If you sail mostly in light winds, the Yankee might disappoint. I won some light air races in mine, but that was by guessing right about where the wind would be.

You might think about a Blanchard Senior Knockabout. Most of them are in the Puget Sound area, but there is one on Long Island Sound. They are fast in light air, inexpensive and have the same sail dimensions as the Star class, which means you can get some inexpensive sails. They fly a spinnaker, as well. You could buy one and restore it for not too much money.

Here's a good website about them.

http://www.eclipseyacht.com/

[Landrith]

The Blanchard Sr is a very practical sloop in deed. The Star sails especially. It fits the bill for the lakes I go to and may even be trailerable to lifts the way a Star is. Have not seen one for sale near Kansas City. Once on ebay though if not mistaken. Usually the two way trip to a seacost is enough lost time and money to kill a deal for me on a fixer upper. I would go the way for a Dragon though if avail before October.

Your Yankee retains more of the Sq. Meter yacht qualites I am looking for. It would be worth building with plans, even if offsets had to be reverse engineered. Your Y association is more my speed and I don't think you have templates yet for pre race conformity!

What would the wood bill run on the Rudder 20 vs Yankee?

[johnw]

The Yankee weighs about 4,800 lb with 2,800 lb ballast. The Rudder 20 weighs 4,400 lb. with 1,200 lb of ballast. Sounds like the weight of wood is the same.

I don't know if any plans exist for the Blanchard. Some of their boats were designed on the mould loft floor. You might be able to get plans for that boat, if they exist, by contacting the web side. I'll try to get in touch with Sarah and let her know you're thinking about building a Yankee.

[Landrith]

Thanks, its a great boat and she made a great web site. I hadn't compared the Yankee with the Rudder 20 footer on weight, I didn't realize they were so close. The Yankee would be my preference over the two.

[johnw]

The Yankee should be a whole lot faster, and probably not much more expensive to build.

[Landrith]

Mystic Seaport Museum appears to have the offsets for the Yankee One Design! I would appreciate any info or copies of materials for building #43.

[johnw]

Have you emailed Rick?

[Wiley Baggins]

Thanks for this thread. The Crosby 20 is a very pretty boat and one that is new to me.

[Landrith]

I haven't seen anything indicating one was built. It would probably be more shapely in 3d (real life). I bet the drawing causes the sheer at the bow to be slightly exaggerated.