I finally get to show my "Dream Boat"

[Lewisboats]

Yes...I finally shelled out the $$$ for an all in one Scanner/Printer thingy. Now I can show you folks my dream boat/Sail away forever/Carefree Barefootin' hunk of floating wood (and bronze and lead and some epoxy and and and)

I'll simply post the link as the picture is too big for here.

Steve

http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/img001.jpg

[paladin]

I take it that this is for skinny water and coastal cruising?

[StevenBauer]

http://www.angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/img001.jpg

[JimD]

Oddest looking thing I've ever seen. Think you'll ever get around to building it?

[Paul Pless]

Oddest looking thing I've ever seen. Think you'll ever get around to building it?

Not really, look again closely, she looks like one of the bigger, Bueler designed, chine hulled, Colin Archer types...

[Hwyl]

Jim, people who live in grass houses should not stow thrones

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

Reminiscent of "Badger"

http://www.benford.us/images/badger-stbd-side-large.jpg

[JimD]

That was a pretty small stone I threw. Feel free to say my ideas are odd if you like. And it's unlikely Steve is going to throw his dream boat away because I think it's odd looking. Would folks be happier if I said it was 'unusual' looking instead? It would be nice to see a better drawing. Hard to tell what it would look like from the one provided. Cheers.

[Pierre LaRochelle]

Your proposed dream boat may exist in the archives of Mr. Jay R. Benford. In particular, his 37 1/2 foot sailing dory may help you harden in those pencil lines.......take a look!

PL

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p5b04ef1bc723db7f6a8bc9b176acc929/eb12f6d2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p93591b954759a94d2237483bd4064ece/eb12f6b8.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p1bba0eed6493a63ffc45132608418faf/eb12f6a2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p5b0059f36f055aa003f4b2430dd5be73/eb12f68e.jpg

[Dave Hadfield]

Steve,

I like it!

Comments -- rounded upper surfaces are easier to slip on, and fall off of. The raised deck of Badger is more secure.

The centerboard architecture doesn't give enough support, I think. Not enough of it is buried. It would bend.

But I sure hope you get it built some day.

Best of luck,

Dave

[Lewisboats]

I take it that this is for skinny water and coastal cruisin
Well, to me, the prettyiest sights on the water are the beautiful spots and dots of land that you can get to (carribean, south pacific Islands, Pacific north west...etc) I tried to balance getting there with being able to get close enough to see things.
Not really, look again closely, she looks like one of the bigger, Bueler designed, chine hulled, Colin Archer types...
There's a man with a good eye...! I had just finished reading Buelher's book and was all kinds of inspired. I looked at the lines of Hagar and liked the general shape and style. I spent the next couple of days on and off sketching this out.
Reminiscent of "Badger"
It sure does, altho I had in mind the forward house face being somewhat more forward. Looks kinda skimpy on the sail yardage doesn't it? Or are they storm sails?

That was a pretty small stone I threw. Feel free to say my ideas are odd if you like. And it's unlikely Steve is going to throw his dream boat away because I think it's odd looking. Would folks be happier if I said it was 'unusual' looking instead? It would be nice to see a better drawing. Hard to tell what it would look like from the one provided. Cheers.
No problem...my armour is pretty durn thick...! Every person's tastes are their own, only on occasion do they mesh with others.

Your proposed dream boat may exist in the archives of Mr. Jay R. Benford. In particular, his 37 1/2 foot sailing dory may help you harden in those pencil lines.......take a look!
Nice...tho I prefer the greater displacement provided by the Vee bottom.
Steve,
I like it!
Comments -- rounded upper surfaces are easier to slip on, and fall off of. The raised deck of Badger is more secure.
The centerboard architecture doesn't give enough support, I think. Not enough of it is buried. It would bend.
But I sure hope you get it built some day.
Best of luck,
Dave
Good point on the rounding...but it is just a sketch... subject to much design spiraling..
Same with the Centerboard. You are right that there is not enough support in the drawing. I had thought to extend the case up into the ballast space under the sole (another 8" or so at least). The centerboard is mostly for balancing the hull with various sail plans...

Thanks for all the comments so far...
Steve

[JimD]

Hey Steve! I didn't mean nuttin' by it. Honest. I love those Buehler dories and visit his website often. I'd start building one tomorow if I could afford it. I really hope you can post a more polished drawing of your ideal dreamboat.

[Lewisboats]

I did neglect to mention that I drew that up a couple of years ago and I have been playing in Freeship with it (the keel was a real female dog). Below is as close as I could get to the original drawing and the latest iteration. More beam, further aft to support the engine and liquids, a bit less flare to control beam along with slightly increased freeboard and a shallower shear. Hydrostatics are in the .txt file.

Steve

http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/DBOriginal.JPG

http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/DBLinesplan.JPG

http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/DBControl.JPG

http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/DBHydro.txt

[Braam Berrub]

Personally I really like tables like the one you've drawn which are permanently available and permanently out of the way - they used to call them 'dinette' tables I think but that word seems to be a pejorative nowadays.

Also I keep reading about people who have removed the propellers and shafts from the gaping apertures in the rudder and by filling the area to provide a smooth water flow gained a half knot or more when sailing - food for thought.

[Lewisboats]

Personally I really like tables like the one you've drawn which are permanently available and permanently out of the way - they used to call them 'dinette' tables I think but that word seems to be a pejorative nowadays.

Also I keep reading about people who have removed the propellers and shafts from the gaping apertures in the rudder and by filling the area to provide a smooth water flow gained a half knot or more when sailing - food for thought.

Yes...I like the configuration too (probably why I drew it ;) ). It is raised enough to look out the ports too, another nice feature

Problem with the rudder thing is that the aft end is pointy...not much room for swinging two wheels of at least 24" diameter, nor is there much interior room for the twin drive trains needed for two props. In addition, you have to have hangers to support the props and there is the addition of the two props themselves as opposed to having only one which is partially hidden (and also very protected by) the keel.

Steve

[JimD]

How about an update? Got the cabin done up in Freeship yet? Inquiring minds need to know.

[Paul Fitzgerald]

Your proposed dream boat may exist in the archives of Mr. Jay R. Benford. In particular, his 37 1/2 foot sailing dory may help you harden in those pencil lines.......take a look!

PL

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p5b04ef1bc723db7f6a8bc9b176acc929/eb12f6d2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p93591b954759a94d2237483bd4064ece/eb12f6b8.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p1bba0eed6493a63ffc45132608418faf/eb12f6a2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p5b0059f36f055aa003f4b2430dd5be73/eb12f68e.jpg


That Bedford cutter has been on my mind for years, the aft cabin is brilliant, just imagine a U seat and table aft with ports looking over the wake, a big skylight above, and a galley.

I reckon it would be the best setup for a long distance cruiser I have seen.