Okay..

[S.V. Airlie]

I sent some pms to some Canadians and never got a response...
What are the laws/regs. on bottom paint.. the toxic type in Canada...?
Am I gonna have to pull Airlie in the first US port to repaint the bottom?

[outofthenorm]

I'm not aware of any important differences in bottom paint formulations between us. Interlux is by far the most used brand in fresh water, with Micron and few others. Don't know about salt, but I'd be surprised if we were different. If you're concerned, buy a few gallons of what you would normally use and give it to the yard. I'm assuming you will launch in Canada and go more or less directly home, so even if there is a difference, no-one here will care.

- Norm

- Norm

[S.V. Airlie]

I am only guessing.. I do know the use of redlead ihas a very substantial penalty.... More than I want to pay.. Asked the boatyard about this and they.. kinda laughed and asked my how big my check book was if I got caught.
Figured theremay be some penatlies for using bottom paint as well.

[HR]

I think that our reg's are pretty much the same as the US. All the Interlux brands are readily available (CSC, Bottomkote, VC17 etc) but Petit is harder to find (not because of regulation, though). Red lead is a whole different story.

What kind of paint do you want to use?

Howard

[S.V. Airlie]

Howard.. I am not sure what the current bottom paint is on Airlie.. other than to know it looks new.. well.. no cracks.. no sluffing off etc.
So, bottom paint will be dependent on what is there.. I have not asked Cecil yet.. what is there but you can be sure that I will when I get there in early Feb.

[Nanoose]

Huh...I guess we don't know much on the this coast (or maybe it's just us!), but red lead gets used here. Interlux, Petit, and some local brands of bottom paint. In fact, a lot of Americans come up from Seattle to get work done here because things are LAXER than in the US.

[S.V. Airlie]

umm.. different red lead.. Nanoose.. just a guess we are thinking about different products.. Red lead.. is not.. ummm.. bottom paint...
May be a provincial thing though...

[outofthenorm]

There are no restrictions on the use of red lead in Canada - just on disposal of the remnants - you have to let it harden, then discard like all other paint at recognized facilities. If you are referring to its use under bottom paint, it's no problem - and I am talking about real red lead - the thick, heavy, seriously traditional kind of stuff.

- Norm

[S.V. Airlie]

Umm was told by the yard I could not use red lead in the engine compartment.... and that they used something.. Gray......something paint.
That there was a big fine for using it....
I wonder why I was told that.. Disposal I can understand....

This is why.. I HAVE TO BE THERE..... not here in MD watching it rain...

[Gary E]

Instead of guessing, why not e-mail the PAINT Co's...and ASK....
THEY know what they SELL in Canada

[S.V. Airlie]

Gary.. it wasn't a guess.. it was what I was told.. Initially saw no reason for e-mailing the company.

[outofthenorm]

Good idea Gary. Jaime, Noah's in Toronto stocks red lead from Pacific Coatings in BC. $88 CDN a gallon FOB Toronto, probably a bit more on the East coast. Google will get you both places.

BTW I went through this process about 18 months ago - I was told by someone who seemed to be in the know that red lead was illegal. But on further research I discovered that it's a kind of urban myth. Lead as an additive in interior house paint was made illegal, but red lead paint itself was not banned. Technically, a boat project is an industrial application. If so-called toxins are a concern, the best advice I've heard (here on the forum) is to use red lead, then paint over it with the usual grey (or white) bilge paint. After it's dry, red lead paint is basically inert.

- Norm

- Norm

[S.V. Airlie]

Norm.. I'm gonna bring this up with the boatyard.. I was told.. specifically.. underlined....red lead was a no no... Took the yard's word for it.
Won't bring it up til I get there... no hurry.the engine compartment is gonna be there and. engine is gonna be out of the boat for a while.. but...

[MarinerKing]

Jaime,
most of the bottom paint you get up here has less copper content then in the US. If you stick with Interlux or Pettit, you should be fine in gettng across the border. I have never heard of a customs guy asking what type of paint is on the bottom.

Ted Derivan
www.transomboatworks.com (http://www.transomboatworks.com)

[Hwyl]

There's an article about this in Professional Boatbuilder (got mine today). it says lots of nice things about epaints. http://www.epaint.net/index.shtm It also says that Canadian antifouling has less copper than U.S.