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landlocked sailor
04-20-2007, 11:32 PM
Weather-wise? This would be a land-based visit and though I realize that y'all get quite a bit of rain, is one season better than another? Rick

capt jake
04-20-2007, 11:53 PM
The non-rainy season would probably be the best. ;) ;)
July through September and part of October are generally dry and very nice.

It gets hot in August and some of the greenery begins to turn brown.

What are you wanting to see in particular?

Paul Girouard
04-20-2007, 11:53 PM
Summer, Aug. 3nd , 4rd & sometimes 5th:rolleyes: :D

Really if you want little, maybe:o :confused: no rain, :eek: Aug. is about as good as it gets, sometimes Sept. can be very nice as well.

July 4th, generally, it's still cool / cold to most , in the evenings , and the 4th can be crappy , cool , rainy etc . Not uncommon.

So Aug/ Sept would be a best bet, I do remember a SeaFair weekend that was just about a wash out for racing, the announcers in the booth where soaked from wind blown rain , thier papers and equipment was soaking wet , it was funny to watch that on TV , the next day it was pretty nice. :rolleyes: :D

capt jake
04-20-2007, 11:54 PM
Summer, Aug. 3nd , 4rd & sometimes 5th

Dang, that was way better than my sarcasm. :)

Paul Girouard
04-20-2007, 11:55 PM
The non-rainy season would probably be the best. ;) ;)
July through September and part of October are generally dry and very nice.

It gets hot in August and some of the greenery begins to turn brown.

What are you wanting to see in particular?

Jake lives in the south sound :rolleyes: and hot is a relitive term when used by PNW,teners :D

capt jake
04-21-2007, 12:00 AM
Jake lives in the south sound :rolleyes: and hot is a relitive term when used by PNW,teners :D

When it's hot, it's hotter here. When it's cold, it's colder here. We get the extremes of the temperature curve, or is it warming? I'm so confused. ;)

Paul Girouard
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
I know one thing , the roads are better down your way :mad: We went to Portland a couple of weeks ago and strangly once south of Tacoma , the road , I-5, got markedly better. You don't suppose the state capital being down there has anything to do with it do ya:rolleyes:

And for some one like landlocked coming for back east-ish our hot will be confortable to them.

Come on summer:cool:

Bob Smalser
04-21-2007, 12:07 AM
Seriously, July 4th through early October if you're betting for money. Bring sweaters and rain gear anyway.

Moving to Washington?




It can rain 270 days straight where I live on Hood Canal.

Once in a great while we get a cold winter, with snow that lasts from November to March.

We’re further north than over nine tenths of the population of Canada. When the sun does shine in winter, the temperature falls to 15 degrees. A rare week of winter sun means good ice skating.

Midwinter gets only 7 hours of sunlight daily. The moss loves it. 6" of moss on your roof adds R2 in insulation.

Yet the sun is so intense in summer it causes some of the highest skin cancer rates in the country. That’s if the forest fires don’t get you first. Ask yourself why drought-resistant conifers dominate rain forests getting 200 inches of rain a year. Counter-intuitively, the highest freshwater temperatures are in mid-late July when the sunset is close to 10pm, not at summer's end. Not that it matters for much....you need a wetsuit year-round anyway.

We don't call them hurricanes, but we get 90mph winter winds, too. If it's a once-in-20-years Northerly, duck, because tree roots on the north side of the trunk are weak around here where 99.9% of strong winds come out of the southwest. November and December are best left to natives with 4wd's with winches, serious chain saws, falling wedges to free stuck bars, a spare bar and chain when wedges fail, and a power crew handy. A 4'-diameter tree across your path pulling a nest of powerlines and utility poles with it is almost everyday stuff here in winter.

Need I say electricity is sporadic in winter because trees falling from either wind or saturated soil take out the lines?

Road closures due to mudslides or snow slides are also common.

World record slugs. Big enough to trip you in the winter dark when going to work or coming home.

Did I mention earthquakes and volcanoes?

Paul Girouard
04-21-2007, 12:13 AM
Bob you neglected the Lahars , yer slippin :D Or are they a "given " with the valcano :D

Now don't say "mudslides" covers Lahars either:rolleyes: :D

Bob Smalser
04-21-2007, 12:19 AM
Bob you neglected the Lahars , yer slippin :D Go are they a "given " with the valcano :D

Now don't say "mudslides" covers Lahars either:rolleyes: :D

Notice I keep a big, big ditch between me and any volcanoes or lahars and am upwind of them too. ;) If you make it across I'll make space for you.

Paul Girouard
04-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Notice I keep a big, big ditch between me and any volcanoes or lahars and am downwind of them too. ;) If you make it across I'll make space for you.


What IF one of the Oly, chain goes active?? Or is that impossible ?? :confused:

BTW , lets hope I can't walk over to your side :eek:

Bob Smalser
04-21-2007, 12:27 AM
What IF one of the Oly, chain goes active?? Or is that impossible ?? :confused:



No volcanoes over here, period. Just a second deep ditch.

http://www.fhsu.edu/biology/Eberle/PacificNW/OlympicMtnsJN97.JPG

TimH
04-21-2007, 12:36 AM
Hurricane Ridge could blow any time :-)
or Mt. Angeles.

G. Schollmeier
04-21-2007, 01:02 AM
LOL!!! Landlocked, I moved here from northern MN, the weather there is maybe just a little more intense than PA. Avoid November, December, January, and February here in Arlington. The rest of the year when they say it’s going to rain today, I have found that means the air will be damp and the sun will only be out 40% of the time. Gee’s I started mowing my lawn in the middle of March. A water repellent windbreaker and a ball cap will get you by most of the year, maybe a sweater for the cool nights. Unless you are going skiing which you can still do on weekends until the end of the month or maybe longer. ;-) Don’t worry about being hot; north of Seattle, I wore my shorts about 6 times last summer.

Gary :D

capt jake
04-21-2007, 01:08 AM
Gary! Shhhhh!!! ;) We'll have to ship you back if you keep that up. ;)

G. Schollmeier
04-21-2007, 01:11 AM
OH! I forgot to mention the earthquakes. :eek:

landlocked sailor
04-21-2007, 01:23 AM
Thanks everybody. I have a hankering to visit Seattle and thereabouts. Rick

G. Schollmeier
04-21-2007, 01:27 AM
This would be a good time.
http://www.woodenboat.org/festival/index.htm

pcford
04-21-2007, 02:35 AM
You do have a round trip ticket don't you?

Some might prefer the second half of July:

http://www.phototripusa.com/images/rwarfield/rw_3843_14.html

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-21-2007, 06:11 PM
Don't let them blow smoke up your ass. Locals here like to deter (even more) new folks from coming here, can't really blame them, housing is rediculous. The timing they describe, july to through september end, is correct, but the summer weather hear is awsome, 75-80 highs and sunny most days, though my only experience here has been 2006 and 2002. Maybe those were drought years. I have also been told that Seattle is significantly drier than a little west or a little north, that we're in a sweet spot. I vastly prefer the summers here to anywhere else in the country, I hate heat above 80 and humidity above 50. Bring rain gear for the occasional shower, and fleeces or sweaters in case it is cool.

Bob S' quote said the sun here is so intense that skin cancer rates are high, but I wouldn't think the UV would be higher here than parts south. I would believe that the combination of sun and fair-skinned locals, who perhaps don't wear enough sunscreen as those further south, might make more sense. I wear either sunscreen or long sleeves.

If you venture out, compasses on the other hand, are screwy here in these parts, about 19 degrees off if I recall. More than the earth's geometry would suggest if you trigged it out, but the magnetic lines are especially curvy around here.

Paul Girouard
04-21-2007, 08:28 PM
Oh that , we didn't blow THAT much smoke up his asre :D Just enought I thought :D and the time to come was pretty agreed apon:cool:

Maybe yer mild with Meer's mind is working , yer gettin grouchie like Meer was :D I kinda miss his banter:( Carry on!

Bob Smalser
04-21-2007, 09:26 PM
Oh that , we didn't blow THAT much smoke up his asre :D

Approproiate metaphor.

Seattlites generally have such an insulated experience with the climate, that one of the biggest hoots around here is listening to them bemoan their fates when the oddball storm misses the usual buffer of the Olympics and nails them good for a change. The lahars will be just the opposite, however. Make theirs extra crispy, please. ;)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/3297171/247520194.jpg

Welcome to Washington. If you want dramatic change in just about everything, simply move either 30 miles in any direction or 500 feet higher or lower. ;)

Spokaloo
04-22-2007, 01:33 PM
You guys kill me.

Washingtonian here. Native Oregonian, but moved to Wa for work.

Where I am, we had 3 months of snow. Lowest temp this year was -27F. Yes, minus. Highest summer temp last summer in aug was 107F. Not minus.

We get less rain here than Houston Tx. Our lawn has been mowed twice. Daffodils are just now blooming since the snow came off the beds. Spring and fall are the best times to visit as the weather extremes havent hit yet. Summer can be spectacular, but expect 2-3 weeks between thunderstorms. The lakes here are gorgeous, and some of the biggest in the west (google Lake Roosevelt, Grand Coulee Dam).

Mind you, where I am is about 260 miles east of the coastal kids, 2 mountain ranges, an arid desert, a high plateau, and 6 microclimates away. We have rattlesnakes, moose, elk, bear, large cats, an abundance of pine trees and cheat grass, and very, VERY little moss......

http://www.mmeinc.com/images/WA.gif

E

Paul Girouard
04-22-2007, 01:55 PM
You guys kill me.

Washingtonian here. Native Oregonian, but moved to Wa for work.

Where I am, we had 3 months of snow. Lowest temp this year was -27F. Yes, minus. Highest summer temp last summer in aug was 107F. Not minus.

We get less rain here than Houston Tx. Our lawn has been mowed twice. Daffodils are just now blooming since the snow came off the beds. Spring and fall are the best times to visit as the weather extremes havent hit yet. Summer can be spectacular, but expect 2-3 weeks between thunderstorms. The lakes here are gorgeous, and some of the biggest in the west (google Lake Roosevelt, Grand Coulee Dam).

Mind you, where I am is about 260 miles east of the coastal kids, 2 mountain ranges, an arid desert, a high plateau, and 6 microclimates away. We have rattlesnakes, moose, elk, bear, large cats, an abundance of pine trees and cheat grass, and very, VERY little moss......

http://www.mmeinc.com/images/WA.gif

E

Of course no one coming to visit Washington is going to the east side :rolleyes: Ya gotta be nuts to live there :D To hot , to cold , to dry , Rarely to wet though, :D and well your vote really doesn't matter come election time , you might as well join us up here in Island county :rolleyes: :D

capt jake
04-22-2007, 03:36 PM
and well your vote really doesn't matter come election time , you might as well join us up here in Island county

OUCH! It seems to be the truth though. :( How about that new 520 bridge plan? ;)

Spokaloo
04-22-2007, 03:55 PM
They started a 10 mile extension of a north south freeway here in spokane in 1947. Its less than 25% complete.

Thanks Westside!

Although, the first two weeks of Sept in the San Juans is SPECTACULAR

E

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-22-2007, 03:58 PM
Of course no one coming to visit Washington is going to the east side :rolleyes: Ya gotta be nuts to live there :D To hot , to cold , to dry , Rarely to wet though, :D and well your vote really doesn't matter come election time , you might as well join us up here in Island county :rolleyes: :D

Well at least housing is cheap! If I could stand the wide-openness and heat, wind, lots of wind, kind of a waste away from water (I may be thinking of parts in between Spokane and Seattle), and lack of social contacts, I'd move out there in a heartbeat.

Paul Girouard
04-22-2007, 07:01 PM
.

Thanks Westside!



Thank King county and it's voting inhabitants :rolleyes:

capt jake
04-22-2007, 07:25 PM
Thank King county and it's voting inhabitants :rolleyes:

True statement. ;)

I really like Spokane, FWIW. We have my wife's family reunion there every year; Newman Lake.

JPhoenix
04-22-2007, 07:26 PM
Rain? What rain?

Last year my lawn went brown in June and it didn't rain again for 3.5 months. Suits me - no mowing.

Maybe it rained up in Seattle last summer, but not down here on the ridge overlooking the Lahar Valley.

Just got home from the CWB bronze casting class, what an excellent course! Worth the two days and every penny, any of you guys haven't done that yet, you gotta sign up. The Monk is getting all new bronze this winter - if the neighbors don't shut me down for smokin' the the place up ;-)

Jim

capt jake
04-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Last year was pretty dry. Broke 100 here for a few days.

Lew Barrett
04-23-2007, 01:04 AM
Rain? What rain?


Just got home from the CWB bronze casting class, what an excellent course! Worth the two days and every penny, any of you guys haven't done that yet, you gotta sign up. The Monk is getting all new bronze this winter - if the neighbors don't shut me down for smokin' the the place up ;-)

Jim

So I'm thinking Sam did his usual fine job and that you met Bill Graf of Esther William's. Bill was the guy casting the keys. He said the course was great fun.

Psst....anytime after the 4th of July and up to October, and the chances are good the weather will be superb.

JPhoenix
04-23-2007, 01:16 AM
That's right Lew,

Bill did a nice job with the skeleton keys, they really looked great - so I brought mine from the Monk today, but ended up doing a couple of cleats and two line guides instead. Sam Johnson does an excellent job indeed.

Nice to see all the CYA vessels lined up on the dock yesterday for the memorial. I was looking for Rita. Quite a sight to see all those boats in one place. Gotta spend more time down here in the Real World.

Some photos of the class here: http://www.jimphoenix.com/jimphoenix2/pages/Monk/CWB/CWB.htm

Best regards,

Jim

Paul Girouard
04-23-2007, 01:26 AM
Excellent photos and work Jim:cool: See it doesn't rain every day in Seattle ;) But it was cloudy / overcast and to some , thats a rainy day.

JPhoenix
04-23-2007, 10:37 AM
Excellent photos and work Jim:cool: See it doesn't rain every day in Seattle ;) But it was cloudy / overcast and to some , thats a rainy day.

Yeah, you're right. It just bugs me that every time it sprinkles in the summer, I have to buy some new windshield wipers, or use the washer fluid to get the windshield wet enough to wash the dirt away.

Maybe I'm just used to it?

Jim

Lew Barrett
04-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the photos Jim. Looks like you did a proper job of it! Rita went home after the memorial in the lake; had other stuff to do, so we didn't tie up that afternoon.

Paul Girouard
04-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Hi Lew :)

TimH
04-23-2007, 11:31 AM
A newcomer to Seattle arrives on a rainy day. He gets up the next day and it's raining. It also rains the day after that, and the day after that. He goes out to lunch and sees a young kid and asks out of despair, "Hey kid, does it ever stop raining around here?" The kid says, "How do I know? I'm only 6."

capt jake
04-23-2007, 11:37 AM
A newcomer to Seattle arrives on a rainy day. He gets up the next day and it's raining. It also rains the day after that, and the day after that. He goes out to lunch and sees a young kid and asks out of despair, "Hey kid, does it ever stop raining around here?" The kid says, "How do I know? I'm only 6."

When I moved here (30 something years ago) I didn't think it would ever stop raining. I still swear I caught a cold as soon as I crossed into WA. ;) It poured for well over 40 days without a break.

Now I have webbed feet and no tan. ;) Well acclimated. ;)

TimH
04-23-2007, 12:06 PM
You know you live in Western Washington when everything you own has a nice shade of green from the moss, mold and fungus.

capt jake
04-23-2007, 12:16 PM
You know you live in Western Washington when everything you own has a nice shade of green from the moss, mold and fungus.

I have become fond of green in recent years. My Truck, trim on the house, trim on the boat(s). I guess it grows on you. ;) LOL

Spokaloo
04-23-2007, 12:25 PM
I dont get it. You seattleites complain incessantly about rain...

ClimateSeattle, WAUnited StatesRainfall (in.) (javascript:alert()35.9

Salem, Oregon, my hometown: Average annual rainfall: 39.15"

Same drizzly rain, so you know it takes an extra couple weeks of pissing to get our 3" extra.

This thread has a life of its own doesnt it?

Heres my webs, proof of native oregon citizenship (note the difference between the big toe web and the rest. I can swim alarmingly well):

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/fighterama2/nina20001.jpg

Jake, you should swing by this summer and check out the NINA project, should be done by summer.

E

TimH
04-23-2007, 12:27 PM
Green has always been my favorite color.
I guess thats a good thing.

Here is a picture of Seattle on one of the few days of the year when it isnt raining..

http://static.flickr.com/105/290205360_4df94de06d.jpg

Space Needle
http://eric.van-der-vlist.com/albums/KT2002/acl.sized.jpg

capt jake
04-23-2007, 12:42 PM
You seattleites complain incessantly about rain...Don't lump me into that group! ;) (sorry, Lew and others). LOL

Remember Seattle is the capital of the state of King. ;) the 51st state. :) I am just a resident of one of the many counties. ;)

I would love to take a look at your project. PM me you address and phone. Right now it looks like it is going to be in August. I will probably drag the '56 runabout over there too.

What boat are you building?

TimH
04-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Anyway I am moving to Quilcene. They get over 60"

Spokaloo
04-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Oh and Jake, did I mention we actually get fires over here too? Structure (avg a fire a day) and ripping wildland fires? Yes dry and toasty.

And I literally walked downstairs, shot this photo, walked back up, uploaded it, and here it is. My house, today, right now.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/fighterama2/nina20003.jpg

Notice the brown spots in the yard where we fill the muskrat holes, and the fact that the greenup from winter is just starting.

E

capt jake
04-23-2007, 01:01 PM
You can keep those brush fires. Yuk!

What lake is that?

Spokaloo
04-23-2007, 01:07 PM
Long lake (lake spokane). Its the dam controlled lower portion of the river. 26 miles from dam to dam. GREAT bass fishing, crappie, perch, brown, rainbow, northern pike, bluegill, sunfish, a few resident salmon, and speculation that theres a couple BIG sturgeon. Oh, and about a zillion Northern Pikeminnow (squawfish), which make good raptor food when you catch them.

The other end drains into Lake Roosevelt.

E

capt jake
04-23-2007, 01:11 PM
Pretty! Can't say I have ever been there. Might have to plan that into a road trip vacation. :)
A couple of winters ago.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/pd2f0ce5f79ffa48b0abe51f73b7b83e2/fa0b0f74.jpg
Looking out into the back yard today. It is overcast. BTW, I have been mowing for a couple of months now.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe0167963d81fd6294d0121915f4b5eca/e9cafe90.jpg
Looking out the front. (I have several acres to mow) Shop to the side.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa73c1c228b63213eddd45de17e380d09/e9cafe8a.jpg
And my somewhat typical view of Mt Rainier. Can't see it today. ;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p1e237876c6d980b2fb4a8211c2f45634/e9cafe86.jpg

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-24-2007, 01:16 AM
Wow, that's prettier out there than the open stretches between Spokane and Seattle. I just remember stopping for the night in the open unforested stretch east of the mountains on my first trip out to Seattle in 2002, man the winds just screamed across there. Your area looks much more tempting. Who knows, cheaper real estate might tempt me out there eventually. I spent this afternoon having a picnic in the new downtown art park that looks out on Puget Sound and the Olympic range, was kinda pretty, the view, the art, and people watching.

Spokaloo
04-24-2007, 11:27 AM
I love the westside, but there isnt a chance in hell I could have picked up a deep water frontage 2700 sq ft house on a qtr acre for $291k.

Our house prices have jumped a bit since then, but its still a bargain to live over here. Snow, pine trees, less rain, more sun, its worth the drive. I can say that because for every person that moves here, 3 move to seattle.

E

capt jake
04-24-2007, 11:44 AM
We would love water front, but it is way out of our price range. Prices have soared here (so have the taxes), but we seemed to have been ahead of the curve 4 years ago when we bought this place. 2.26 acres, 2000sq, 3 car attached, 3 car detached shop, $254k. Nice thing about where we are, it is on a plateau away from water (above the Nisqually river), no bugs and it is still pleasant after the sun goes down. :)

I should add that it is drizzling here today again, Spokane is looking better all the time. Now to win the lottery so that I can retire. ;)

TimH
04-24-2007, 12:24 PM
rain here this morning. Now its just getting ready to rain more.

Kermit
04-24-2007, 12:40 PM
It used to amuse me that Seattlites could complain about all their rain.
I lived up the Wynoochee from Montesano at Simpson's old Camp Grisdale--up until it closed down. First November there we had 40 inches of rain. You only measure monthly rainfall in inches--annual rainfall is in feet. First year there it was SEVENTEEN FEET, fer cryin' out loud! Moved over to Lake Quinault after Griz, and first year there was a mere 14 feet. Now I'm on Whidbey, and it feels like a near desert. Took me years to get used to it.

capt jake
04-24-2007, 12:44 PM
It used to amuse me that Seattlites could complain about all their rain.
I lived up the Wynoochee from Montesano at Simpson's old Camp Grisdale--up until it closed down. First November there we had 40 inches of rain. You only measure monthly rainfall in inches--annual rainfall is in feet. First year there it was SEVENTEEN FEET, fer cryin' out loud! Moved over to Lake Quinault after Griz, and first year there was a mere 14 feet. Now I'm on Whidbey, and it feels like a near desert. Took me years to get used to it.

Small world Kermit. I used to deliver parts to the rapair shops at Grisdale and Govey. I used to love tht run, once every two weeks. Only two stops on my route those days. ;( Nothing left but foundations, for the most part.

TimH
04-24-2007, 12:52 PM
I was at the Hoh rainforest last year....and it wasnt raining!

capt jake
04-24-2007, 12:54 PM
I was at the Hoh rainforest last year....and it wasnt raining!

You can't say 'Hoh' anymore. ;) I bet it was quite beautiful there. :)

TimH
04-24-2007, 01:16 PM
It was beautiful. I stood behind a tree about 3 feet from a couple of full grown elk. They didnt like me too much :-)

Actually I dont mind rain too much but I miss the big thunderstorms and lightning back in the midwest though. I love it when a really big one comes through, with all the wind, the flashes of lightning, and the thunder that shakes your house at its very foundation.
Everytime I go back I wish for a really big storm.
Here it just drizzles all the time. Pretty boring weather out here for sure.
Seattle doesnt really get more rain than some other cities, its just that it rains just a little bit for long periods of time. Elsewhere they can get a few inches in a few hours, then it clears up and gets sunny. Big difference.
Remember back in 96 or 97 when it rained every day for like 93 days? That got old.

capt jake
04-24-2007, 01:23 PM
Ahhh, your making me homesick now. ;) 4 distinct seasons, thunderstorms, snowstorms (that were dry snow)..........still drizzling......

Kermit
04-25-2007, 12:29 PM
Yea, Jake--I haven't been back. I think it might break my heart. If you delivered parts, did you know Steve Lauerman? I guess the Corps of Engineers must still be operating the dam at Lake Wynoochee. Without the camp for amusement, that could be a desolate station. I could enjoy it though--for a while, anyway.

When I was there the bunkhouses were shut down. Just the homeguard housing, the shop, offices, school, rec hall. Bachelors had to ride the crummies.

It used to amaze me that in the summer it might rain 4-6" a day for 4-5 days, and then the sun would come out and the roads would be dust in a couple of days. Where can that much water go?

LeoinSA
04-26-2007, 10:03 PM
Jeebus H! Y’all (that there is Texass talk) whine lots. Bona fide’s: Mother’s ancestors arrived in Oregon City in the fall of 1853 via Oregon Trail. Settled in the Lewis River valley (Woodland). Father’s side arrived in 1888 – settled in Woodland area. Me: born in Vancouver WA, lived in Woodland and Vancouver (USA) until Navy called. Returned from Navy gig and lived in Walla Walla until personal circumstances changed (a new woman) and we moved to San Antonio.

Vancouver/Portland metro (where I grew up) IS different from Seattle as Seattle is different from Sequim is different from Westport is different from Toppenish and Moses Lake. And don’t even mention Dusty, Washtucna, Pataha, Starbuck – no, not the coffee chain – Kettle Falls or Twisp. Those places are as different as Granite Falls is from Concrete and Index. My point? Washington State is one of the most diverse states in the nation. You can have rain. You can have drizzle. You can have snow and cold. You can have heat and low humidity or you can have heat and high humidity. Whatever temperate climate you’re most comfortable with, you can pretty much find. And you’ll pretty much find 4 seasons.

In Wally World – just as an example – Winter came about Thanksgiving – give or take - and lasted through Valentine’s day – give or take. Some snow most years, not too much usually. Some freezing rain. But worst of all was the inversion and ice fog. WW is in a valley and some weather patterns locked cold air at the surface and created an inversion. 1500 to 2000 feet elevation the sun was shining and it was 45° where at the valley floor it was foggy and 28° to 31°. A few days of this – eh, no big deal. But I’ve seen this weather pattern last for weeks – months – years – decades! Well, at least it seemed to last that long. But 10 days before a break wasn’t unusual. Miserable weather to have to live in. YUCK!

Spring greening started around mid-February and spring was over by – more or less – mid-May. Summer – most years – started about Memorial Day and went through mid-September, although there were very few years that “true” summer lasted more than a couple-three weeks in mid-July when the temps consistently got over 100°. Fall – glorious fall – lasted from mid-September until about Thanksgiving. 25+ years of that wasn’t so bad – at least compared to San Antonio.

Just for comparison sake y’all understand. ;)

Called my Mother-in-Law on New Years day to rub it in – windows open and a gentle 75° degree breeze was wafting through the house. She lives on the New Jersey side of the Hudson across from NYC. But the running joke is while she suffers the NE winters, we suffer through the Texas summers. Oh, it’s nice enough right now – days in the 70’s and 80’s with reasonable humidity. But here soon – anywhere from a few days to a month – we’ll close up the house, turn on the AC and not be able to open the windows until October! Heat, humidity and misery so bad that ya feel like you’ve just stepped out of the shower when you go outside in the afternoon. 10 minutes and you’re sopping wet from perspiration. Not all certainly, but there is a sizable percentage of the population that lives from AC space to AC space. Home = AC. Car = AC. Work = AC. Shopping = AC. Restaurant = AC. Y’all get the jist.

Yard work? Git-er-done before 11am. Boating? Can you say bimini?

Oh, did I mention fire ants? Snakes? Cactus? Natives? And I don’t mean Indians. Yep. Texas is a wondrous land – and I often wonder why I made the commitment to my new bride to move from Washington to wherever she found a permanent college teaching position. Welcome to San Antonio – Ye Ha! There are two positives – it ain’t Houston or Dallas!

So revel in your scenery – tain’t a decent mountain within 350 miles of here – and rejoice in the fact that your cost of living is getting so danged high that most other folks – except those Calif…..ia ones – can’t afford to move into the neighborhood.

And yes, I do miss my native land.

Best,

Leo

TimH
04-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Spring should get here any month now...

Spokaloo
04-27-2007, 12:00 PM
Sunny and warm today, low 70s over here.

Hey Leo, most of my extended fam lives in Dayton (our farm is there) and Walla Walla (the town so nice they named it twice!). I definitely second your basin fog comment, esp the icy slopes of Minnick Hill!

Did I mention this week my neighbor and I have caught (to date) 13 crappie over 12", 6 Perch, 1 smallmouth, a 16" rainbow trout, and 20 squawfish?

Spring fishing is on!

E

LeoinSA
05-04-2007, 07:03 AM
Just FYI - In San Antonio, humidity at 96% at 5 am - temp at 74° - muggy, foggy and sticky. Yuck. Predicted high today of 88°. Closed all windows and started AC. Temp inside house set at 76° - humidity dropping as I type!:D There might be a few more days where we can open windows, but I think our summer has started. Enjoy your spring.