Dolfinite or similar in Canada?

[outofthenorm]

You wouldn't believe the trouble I'm having finding an old-fashioned bedding compound like Dolfinite or Interlux Boatyard Bedding Compound
here in Toronto. The only thing I've found is a "dolfinite-style" substance for $70 a quart! Everyone wants to sell me modern adhesive goop - which I do not want. I'm bedding fairly big white oak pieces (a gripe under the water and a new rail above).

So, 2 questions: 1) Do any of our Canadian members know of an in-country source? and 2) If there any way that makes sense to mix this stuff on my own? It's linseed oil and ?????

- Norm

[Stephen]

Dolphinite - I have heard rumours that it is not readily available in Canada because the label is not bilingual. Apparently a few select West Marine stores in Canada carry it - but will not ship it between stores for some reason unknown to me.:confused:

[Doug Hamilton]

Look into the thread in Building/Repair: titled Garboard Bedding Compounds?; wherein the 3rd response is from Mike Hanyi.. :)He makes an offer to provide his formula for putty to be used in lieu of Dolphinite.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

West Marine in Canada will order it for you.

[few3]

Didn't dolphinite get "class-actioned" into oblivion for antifouling?

[paladin]

dolphinite went into bankruptcy for all the class action lawsuits against the company for the product failures, The first tried to blame it on the folks that custom made the product for them, and it got thrown back in their faces because the product is not supposed to freeze and they let entire warehouses of product freeze, making it go bad.......so they may no longer be around.

[chergui]

Here's a thread on dolfinite:
http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=55137&highlight=dolfinite

I did order mine from seattle but it was declared as "paint". I still think it would have been fine though to bring it in. Fisheries supplies sent it to me anyway.

[few3]

The first tried to blame it on the folks that custom made the product for them, and it got thrown back in their faces because the product is not supposed to freeze and they let entire warehouses of product freeze, making it go bad.......so they may no longer be around.

We may never find the truth to this one.

Dolphinite had independent testing of the failed product that showed the original agreed upon formulation had been changed by Clean Seas. Clean Seas accused Dolphinite of letting the product freeze ( Freezing temperatures would likely destroy many of Dolphinites other products, which wasn't the case )

Dolphinite didn't have product liability insurance. Clean Seas and the other company did. Dolphinite screwed themselves in that sense. However, since they were in bankruptcy, all settlement specifics ( except the payout ) was kept between Clean Seas and the lawyer. I doubt it will ever be revealed as to the real reason for the product failure.

[outofthenorm]

Thanks all. I'll call Waste Marine and see what they say. I've also sent an email to the Interlux rep for Canada. The website lists their bedding compound as "available in Canada" but the stores don't have it, because (they say) the distributors don't have it. We'll see. I'm also gonna contact Mike Hanyi about the recipe.

- Norm

[jimmy]

Did you have any luck finding something? In a day or two I'll be scraping the bottom of the can of Dolphinite that was almost impossible to get a year or two ago. So far the marine stores have told me they can't get it in Canada. I have them looking into the Interlux version. I read somewhere that Pettit also made one, but when I google it, it seems like Pettit carries Dolphinite now. Has anyone had any recent luck finding something similar in Canada, especially BC? If not does anyone have a recipe for making it?

[jimmy]

So, nobody in Canada is using bedding compound?

[outofthenorm]

Sorry Jimmy - I missed your previous post. I have a good local chandler trying to track some down from Interlux. The product is listed on the Interlux website as available in Canada, but nobody stocks it here anymore. I'll know in a few days if it can be had.

- Norm

[S.V. Airlie]

Norm.. offer still holds....:D

[jimmy]

So I found a company that would ship some Dolfinite up from the US. By the time I got it I had paid about 3 times what it's worth (free trade my @$$). Anyway, while trying to figure out why Dolfinite is so "hazardous" I learned from the MSDS that the "hazardous" ingredients are: silicon dioxide (basically sand), mica (also kind of like sand, an inert mineral) and methylated spirits (alcohol - you can buy this in any hardware store). As far as I can tell, the only real concerns with silica and mica are inhaling it as dust, which in a bedding compound that is a paste and is designed not to dry out, is a ridiculous concern. If it wasn't for the methylated spirits, now that the fungicide has been taken out, they could probably market Dolfinite as a health food.

Anyway, I am guessing from the MSDS and a few other comments I have heard that Dolfinite is basically silica and linseed oil with a tiny bit of mica and methyl alcohol. Does this sound right?

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Talked to Brydon Marine today, and they say Dolfinite can't be shipped to Canada because of the non bilingual labelling...grr...:(

[jimmy]

There are things in the grocery store where I shop that don't have any english or french on them (I would tell you what, but I can't read the labels). In any case, it's easy to slap french sticker on the top of the can, which is what the last can I bought in Canada had. I've noticed that these french translations sometimes have very little resemblance to the english on the package so if they used one of those web translators and got some cheap stickers printed they would be doing better than most, but they might not notice if they copied the french label from some instant noodles.