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Ian McColgin
07-07-2007, 09:39 AM
The problem is that the foredeck - all one square foot of it - is a tad small for handling the anchor unless I add a pulpit, which I won't for aesthetic reasons and anyway that does not solve the problem of getting back aft past a vagrant boom, and that cocky rotrousse bow invites damage unless I add an anchor platform, which I won't for aesthetic reasons and because that would keep me from snugging bow in at my favorite waterfron bar. Let's keep our priorities.

So I deploy from the cockpit, usually dead stick on a broad reach. Works great. I'm even planning a set of pads to keep the anchor up on the side deck when sailing.

The rode leads from a snatch block on the bow down the side deck outside of the midships cleat, keeping it off the trunk, and is secured at the aft cleat.

But retrieval remained elusive through last year. I was using a trip line system that I liked well enough, especially as I figured how to keep excess line out of the way by having the trip pass through a shackle under the little buoy to a bit of chain which would then pull the excess back down, keeping the buoy neatly above the anchor.

To retrieve I'd sail up grabbing the pick-up as I passed it and hauling in. The problem was that this involved some nasty simultaneous work, especially if under sail in a crowded anchorage.

It also involves some tricky lifting over the side of the boat to do it without scaring the hull. I thought about a deployable strut and roller to haul over but could not come up with a good system.

So, the night of the Cotuit fireworks I was visited with a dream that recalled for me something I may have heard or read about and modified.

I shackled a largish fender – well able to support the 35# CQR – over the rode. Before departure I took the rode off the snatch block and put it through a loop starting on the far side of the stem, over the rode, back around the stem and thence back to the stern. That way I could free the rode from the bow without having to go forward. The line is short enough to drag over the bow without fouling the anchor.

So, dropt the rode off the bow and simply motored ahead, bringing in the slack as I went. As I passed straight up and down I cleated the rode and carried on ahead. The anchor of course broke out easily and then as it was pulled back, the buoy’s resistance pushed it back and down the rode, raising the anchor to just below the surface where it towed just fine – lots of water resistance between anchor and buoy but overcomable. And towing the anchor astern easily washed the anchor off.

I realized as I pulled it in that I can quite easily make a roller platform that will brace over the after cleat and make for very easy recovery without risking the transom or even standing up outside the cockpit.

rbgarr
07-07-2007, 11:01 AM
I use one of these I got from ebay (not chrome plated and not so expensive, however) http://tinyurl.com/yqlask

Ian McColgin
07-07-2007, 11:38 AM
Pretty slick. It's actually an idea I was toying with trying to invent - shows no good idea is new - but it was getting too complex and did not help with break-out problems.

For Marmalade I'll stick with the wood version because it will also double as the lever I use to apply enough power to the f#@k stick that gets the recalcitrant centerboard down.

rbgarr
07-07-2007, 11:44 AM
Makes sense. Trouble with your centerboard?

Here's a pic of that folding 'crane' as set up on a beautiful Huckins (which has a near plumb bow)

http://i14.tinypic.com/62sebmp.jpg

Bill Perkins
07-07-2007, 11:31 PM
I appreciate the idea of a counterweight on the trip line buoy . I've got to try that .I also need to deploy and retrieve from the cockpit on my launch.

http://spartanmarine.com/image/19.jpg



I scored one of these on Ebay and am thinking about mounting it amidships . It would support an electric outboard for gunkholeing and short range backup power . I mean the kind that can swivel 360 deg.When not needed for that ,I'm thinking the motor mount could also serve as a strut for keeping the anchor clear of the topsides when retrieving it .

Maybe I'll cut a small chock in the board for the purpose . Could even store the anchor on it for short runs . Usually I need neither electric out board or anchor and the bracket would be stowed away . I'm hesitant to drill more holes in my deck until I've actually got the outboard and wiring though .

John B
07-09-2007, 07:37 AM
I have a folding 'spare man' on the stern for getting dinghies up.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/pb68f8ff62d61b0e5099c656f3bc3d630/f7d1c903.jpg
pretty useful gimmick.(always liked that photo)

Ian McColgin
07-09-2007, 08:36 AM
Another nice gizmo. Won't fit around the sheet horse and cleats and vent on the 8" deck abaft Marmalade's combing, but very nice for a more capacious deck.

Goes to show how there are many solutions to the issues we face.

In yesterday's high wind experiment coupled with my trying to pass instructions to a green helmsman, we managed to get a bit off the wind and ended up anchored by the tail. With great effort, reversing hard and my grunting in the rode, we got up close and then I let the rode ride, took the helm to power foreward with a hard turn and managed to get aimed upwind again, ran hard up past the anchor reeling in the rode, went passed and popped the anchor loose, up it came on the fender and self-cleaned as it towed astern.

As it happened, the fender came between the boat and the anchor as I brought it up. I wonder if I can make that a normal event and count on it as my anchor roller?

More experiments to follow.