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SaintAustell
09-03-2007, 06:46 AM
I've just finished the hull - not yet fitted out - of a boat based on this design, BUT while retaining the 7/8" three plank bottom. I've rounded the sides and built them using the Ashcroft method of diagonal planking (see 'building classic small craft' - Gardner - I found an original copy of Ashcroft's book through Alibris). The hull looks very nice and fair, and I'm looking forward to getting her fitted out, a pair of Culler oars built, and onto the water. My question is this - can I still, in view of the odd method of construction, call her a dory? As a poor benighted Englishman I'm not sure how far the definition extends, and I would hate to offend any purists.

boatbear
09-03-2007, 07:39 AM
If you post some pics you can call it whatever you like. Seriously, from 'The Dory Book' - "All dories start with a flat bottom and grow out of it, as it were." If knuckle-sided dories are still dories, then your round sided dory is still a dory.
Boats with cross-planked bottoms are not dories, because the bottom is attached after the sides. So I reckon you still have a dory, but I will only really believe it when I see some pictures. Grin.
Charlie

Daniel Noyes
09-04-2007, 12:17 PM
Yes, and please do post a few photos of bottom detail.
I recently built a smooth sided dory of my own design. I cut the bottom to shape, bent it on a strong back installed frames and strip planked the sides. Gardner has a carvel power dory from 1910 or so in his small craft book, and I got the idea of strip planking when I saw a carvel planked town class sailing dory built by the Pert Lowell company in the 40's-50's
Dan
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SaintAustell
09-05-2007, 03:58 AM
Not being very computer literate, I've been having trouble finding out how to post requested pics - I hope I've succeeded here. Regarding the bottom - I felt that if I braced the three 7/8" mahog. planks against my garage roof, as Gardner suggests, I was more likely to lose the roof than bend the planks, so I cut them to shape, rough bevelled them and then put on oversize cleats, leaving a gap of about 1" between planks. I then put the whole assembly inside an improvised heavy duty polythene/duct tape bag, and put the whole thing in place on the moulds (already on strongback) I braced the after end down into position with a spanish windlass, then steamed the bottom. when I judged that it was cooked, I brought the forward end down into position with sash cramps acting on a batten across the bottom and the strongback itself. when it dried out, I remeved everything, reassembled the bottom with correct size cleats and glue, and replaced it on the moulds. I got about 2" springback, which I corrected simply with the windlass and cramps, which then stayed in place during planking, only being removed when planking reached each end. With a bit of luck, photos follow (if they don't appear would someone take pity on a fool and explain in short, simple words how to upload pics?: <img src="http://www.Flickr.com/lazybird1.jpg

boatbear
09-05-2007, 06:47 AM
SaintAustell, I tried to find your pic on Flickr with no success. So I blundered around and found that I am a member (yes it’s all flooding back now). I thought I would try to upload and post an image from there so I could describe how it is done. I use PictureTrail, which seems to be a lot more user-friendly for this task.
Anyway, I managed to upload a couple of pics, going through the various pages: -
‘Choose’, yep, no problems, found a nice image in the ‘boatporn’ folder
‘Add’, ok, I added another one
‘Upload’, good, it’s all happening
‘Next – describe your photos’, Hmm don’t want to do that but ok, I’ll go there and see what happens. I don’t do anything here.
‘Save this batch’ yes, good, that’s what I want
‘Your Photos’ yes, there they are! Two little thumbnails.

Now, how do I get a URL to post? I bumble around in the FAQ and find some instructions.

Ok, I click on one of the pics and it loads up. Above it is ‘Available sizes’. Medium is 500x322. Since the WBF recommends this as the max size I click this button and the photo reloads.

Down below the pic is
‘To link to this photo … etc, and two options
Option 2 is the one, I think – ‘Grab the photo’s URL’
Right click on the URL and select ‘Copy’

I hope you are following this – there’s going to be a test later.

Now, if I am replying to a post and I want to post a pic, I use a word processor - write text, paste in any image URLs in the right spots – copy and paste the lot into the ‘Post Reply’ text box (rather than using the ‘quick reply’ box). This way, I can use the ‘Preview Post’ to make sure the pic loads properly before I ‘Submit Reply’.

So, as a test I am going to paste an image URL here and test it. The pic is of the ‘Flint’ pulling boat designed and built by Ross Lillistone from Bayside Wooden Boats (Brisbane, Australia - just a thousand or so miles from here). I hope he doesn’t mind me posting it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1063/1328894840_ce23769c97.jpg

Now I’ll test the post as described above. Nope, didn't work. At least it is possible to click on that URL and it will open the image in a new window, so I guess it is an attachment. Anyway, it didn’t work, and I think I know why. I ducked into my PictureTrail account and grabbed an image URL (helpfully labelled ‘Forums Tag:’). It looks much the same but has [IMG] at the front end and at the back end. So I’ll add those bits and try again.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1063/1328894840_34dfef122c_o.jpg

and it works. Hmm, I definitely prefer PictureTrail. Nice boat, eh?
I hope this helps. I’ve had fun. I’ve learnt something, practiced the typing, and hope I’ll be rewarded with being able to see a photo of your boat. Grin.
Charlie