Tile fireplace needed for Carib II - or wood stove?

[Figmental]

Carib II needs a cabin heater for our winter to come here in Maine. Best would be a proper period tile fireplace as Henry Howard writes of and has a photo of in, "The Yacht 'Alice', Twenty Years After". I went to the Paul Luke Co. in South Boothbay and he makes some lovely ones but none that match the original as much as I'd like.
So,,,Please does anyone have any clues or leads? The original tile fireplace was made by the Murdock Damper and Bronze Company of Boston in the early 1920's. H. Howard says that Murdoack bought the patterns from the Edward Burgess & Co, who introduced the units in the 1890's. Henry further states that when he was writing (1924), most young yachtsmen had never seen one and didn't know of them oand the, "almost unbelievable warmth and comfort they could provide on damp or foggy days".
Help! Any good leads will be gratefully rewarded in under sail time aboard Carib II.
David

[Thorne]

I'd post a description, photos and dimensions if you want any serious assistance -- "proper period tile fireplace" doesn't give us much to work with.

Seems to me you'd be much safer (and make any inspectors/insurers happier) with a stock wood stove designed for boats, possibly one that can open up a big door for that fireplace-like experience.

[Russ Manheimer]

Figmental,

Though relatively expensive, Navigator Stove Works (http://www.marinestove.com/index.htm) could provide a suitable wood/coal stove. From experience a solid fuel stove will provide the best dry heat.

If living on board full time you may want to consider some sort of diesel heater that will require less tending. Decide soon, it'll get cold quick enough.

Good luck,

Russ

Where are you spending the winter in Maine?

[Lance F. Gunderson]

I had a Lunenberg Foundry "Gift" wood/coal stove on my Bolger Black Skimmer; it worked great and I liked it so much I removed it when I sold the boat, ans still have it. I had a Ratelco "Cole" stove aboard my Rhodes Ranger 28 and it also worked well but had no provisions for cooking like the Gift did and it would not burn all night, but it was light weight, whereas the Gift was cast iron and heavy. I've always admired the Luke stoves, but they sure are expensive. Fatsco used to make the Tiny Tot series which many seemed to like. Chris Knight had one aboard Leucothea (read "Atlantic Circle" by Kathy Knight). A solid fuel stove is mighty nice for New England cruising...perhaps one of the nicest features a cruising boat can have.

[ssor]

I googled soapstone stoves and found this; http://www.hearth.com/visit/wsvisit/source/ws50.html

[Figmental]

http://i8.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b3/62/a70b_1.JPGThanks for the ideas, I'll keep persuing getting or making the " proper period piece" and will next try to post the photo from, The Yacht Alice, showing the original.

But just now on Ebay I found a lovely little Jotul of a model which I've not seen before and felt compelled to buy it since with the, 'buy it now' feature anyone could have and I'd have missed it.

Has anyone ever seen this model before? Is it indeed a Jotul? It looks like the lower front plate casting pivots down to be a door.

I heat my house here in Az, ( I just flew back for a work trip yesterday), with a Jotul 602 that my Uncle Henry used to heat his stone house in Ct. with. It spent years in my Airplane truck camper, 'The Flyer', before it came inside. in Az. I made a tiny stove for the truck out of a 5 gallon thinner barrel by copying the Sotz Barrel Stove design door and made a miniature of 1/8" plate and strap. Anyone want to see a photo of it? I like it for a camper because it's nearly instant heat with the light gauge of the thinner barrel body. It's got a smoke shelf too. Burns good + light weight.

[Thad]

You have the skills, David. Soapstone is available.

[Figmental]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p49cb25faf82678950bcc82a9911e3099/e7cc1297.jpg

I hope you can see the stove clearly, Mrs Howard described it in the first edition of 1926 as having green tiles. the Green was also the color of the curtain covering the third saloon bunk, the raised panels on the bulkheads, and the saloon upholstery.

I am a lucky man! :):):)

[Pericles]

This could be a case of two nations divided by a common language, but this is what I consider is a tiled fireplace.

http://www.rumford.com/pictures.html

Is this permitted on a boat?

http://www.rumford.com/images/classic.jpg

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

fireplaces are us
http://www.fireplacesareus.co.uk/images/fireplaces/41704.jpg (http://www.fireplacesareus.co.uk)

[Figmental]

I'm with you guys in that a fireplace is built into the wall, and a stove is free standing or could be an insert to fit a fireplace.
My mistake was to use the terminology of long established company producing a quality cabin heater, the Paul E Luke Inc. firm.

Here is the web page that misled me.

http://www.peluke.com/Fireplaces/fireplaces.html

Perhaps they deserve your attention to get the terminology corrected?
I do hope that when you have gotten a response from them that you will share it here? :D

[Thorne]

I agree with Figment, remember all those free-standing fireplaces from the 70's? Wall isn't necessary for something to be a fireplace, just an open (or openable) front. Open front = fireplace, closed front = stove.

That said, still seems scary to have an open-front fire-thingie on a boat...

;0 )

[ssor]

Mr Franklin realized that most of the heat was lost up the chimney with a masonary fireplace so he created the Franklin fireplace and brought the fire out into the room. It was still called a "fireplace" .
I made a tile fireplace using a gas burner from an unvented space heater, concrete tile backer board, thinset mortar and ceramic tile. I think I could build a vented, solid fuel heater by similar methods, just have to pick my tile for better heat resistance. Probably use furnace cement and fire brick for the firebox. I would test it outside for a season before I brought it inside.

[Jay Greer]

I was aboard "Taleisen" last week. Larry and Lynn have a new oil burning heating stove on board that takes up little space. Larry ordered it out of England. Check on their web site and post a quiery if it might be of interest. We have a Tiny Tot on "Bright Star" that we are converting to a small oil burning font as it is cleaner than coal or wood.
Jay