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jbo_c
01-05-2008, 07:59 AM
What designs have you seen that are similar in size and spirit to the Stambaugh's Redwing(preferably in S&G)?
I can't find much to compare it to. I did find a camper dory someone built, but can't think of who right this minute. But that is about all. Others I've seen are more modern and less classic looking.
Jbo
jbo_c
01-05-2008, 08:05 AM
Here's a link to the dory cruiser I mentioned. Like it, but I'm looking for a power driven boat and this one would be a little cramped for two.
http://www.butlerprojects.com/forsale/campcruiser/index.htm
I like the St. Pierres I've seen, but most of them are much larger.
Jbo
Jacques Mertens has a few roomy plywood offerings around the same size, some displacement hulls for low power and economy, some planing hulls requiring more horsepower, for example http://www.bateau.com/categories.php?cat=29 :
http://www.bateau.com/prodimages/HM19_350.jpg
http://www.bateau.com/prodimages/P19_350.jpg
eastern270
01-05-2008, 09:54 AM
I think this one is very close to the design of stambaughs redwing 18. A little bigger but a nice looking boat. http://skiffamerica.com/
Spokaloo
01-05-2008, 11:39 AM
jbo, google st pierre dory plans. There are MANY different designers that have taken a crack at the St Pierre style, with antiquated looks, solid performance in rough water, and low power requirements.
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David G
01-05-2008, 12:24 PM
One of my fellow Ol' Coots is building this 18 footer by Tracy O'Brien. I had never heard of it before. Seems pretty comparable to a Redwing 18 though.
http://www.tracyobrien.com/moreinfo.asp?id=32
Seems like the SkiffAmerica is similar (maybe a bit roomier?) but wants around 25 hp.
http://www.skiffamerica20.com/
I'm not sure if Mertens really has anything comparable. The Harbor Master 19 that Jim shows is very nice, but wants 50 - 60 hp
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" -- Douglas Adams
jbo_c
01-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Seen the SkiffAmerica and very familiar with Jacques' designs(Just bought plans for one.). In fact, Jacques has a camp skiff project on his desk that he tells me is coming soon(depending on your definition of soon).
I like his HMD18, but looking for an even more classic style. The more I look, the more I think that really a Redwing is the only thing that will suit me. I believe Jacques' new design will be very close to Redwing.
All of the St Pierres I've seen are much larger. But I do like that look.
Like that Kayleigh.
Thanks. Others?
Jbo
stumpbumper
01-05-2008, 05:15 PM
You can't get any more classic than this one - Sundance
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/wf/sundance/index.htm
Plans are also available from DN Goodchild.
I'm not sure if Mertens really has anything comparable. The Harbor Master 19 that Jim shows is very nice, but wants 50 - 60 hp
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" -- Douglas Adams
Harbour Master 18. Displacement hull, 10 - 15 horsepower. Don't like the superstructrue? Change it. That's one of the best things about building your own boat.
http://www.bateau.com/images/boatpics/HMD18_bow_350.jpg
Spokaloo
01-05-2008, 05:34 PM
Jim, jbo is a member over at the bateau forum, and we have gone to great lengths to reccomend various hulls for him.
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Jim, jbo is a member over at the bateau forum, and we have gone to great lengths to reccomend various hulls for him.
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I wuz merely trying to point out that Mertens does at least have an 18 footer with low power requirements. :) Redwing does have very nice lines but personally I'd be very wary about any flat bottom power boat.
jbo_c
01-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Yeah. Got to admit, I hadn't thought of changing the HMD18 above the deck. They've been very patient with me on Bateau. That's an awesome forum over there and a first class group of guys - like Spokaloo.
I made a couple of changes to the first boat I made(canoe) and wouldn't do changes again. I bought Jacques' plans for the FS17 and may build it if his camp cruiser plans don't come out in the spring. I really want to support Bateau as much support as they've been for me. But other plans are still a great source of ideas.
Jbo
paladin
01-05-2008, 09:00 PM
If I wanted a damn nice low powered displacement camper I think I'd go for the 24 foot Maia or whatever it's called......relatively inexpensive to build, can take rough water, plenty of room, capable of cruising the islands and will sleep up to 4 in it's present configuration.....and can support a boom tent over the open cockpit area........fish from it....diving platform....room for solar panels, can load about 2000 pounds of supplies or hasish, 1000 mile range with standard fuel......
jbo_c
01-05-2008, 09:23 PM
I like Maia, but it's out of my league(and price range).
Jbo
Yeah. Got to admit, I hadn't thought of changing the HMD18 above the deck. They've been very patient with me on Bateau.Jbo
They've been very patient with me here, too. I've been haggling for years over the next pocket cruiser I keep saying I'm going to build. But what can ya say? I want want I want. As for changes, I don't think I've ever built a boat completely to spec except the first kayak, and I didn't like it. :D
paladin
01-05-2008, 09:34 PM
I have a damn good figure worked up to build one to yacht finish, here inthe U.S., or build in the Philippines....or Thailand.....noting the price of resin here, there and at Chomburi, I know the labor rates, and I know the yard rates to build.....I can have a boat built to yacht standards cheaper than I can buy a used motor....
Dave Hadfield
01-06-2008, 10:35 AM
There are Jim Michalak designs. Quite a few of them are camp-cruisers. The AF-3 /4 designs look very simple and practical and not as boxy as some of his others (which have more room, and are less sinkable!).
http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/
http://http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/maxaf4.jpg
Dave Hadfield
01-06-2008, 10:38 AM
http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/maxaf4.jpg
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