L F Herreshoff cat ketch

[rbgarr]

Here's one of the designs shown in Sensible Cruising Designs that I thought had never been built. Wrong again! :D

http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/descant.html

[David Conard]

That's not the only one that's been built. I have one also. I'd be happy to email a photo of "Julia" to you and you can post it.

David

[Paul Pless]

Pretty neat collection of boats at that shop! Thanks for the link.
I'm particularly fond of this canoe sterned Rhodes.


http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/images/moonbeam01.jpg

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Here's one of the designs shown in Sensible Cruising Designs that I thought had never been built. Wrong again! :D

http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/descant.html

http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/images/descant01.jpg

Look's like their is some catboat in her ;)

[john l]

joe, i had the jones for this boat for years. then i found julia and i thought i would replace tidbit with her. business went on the skids and
i only was able to do half the deal. i think this boat would be great!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

That's not the only one that's been built. I have one also. I'd be happy to email a photo of "Julia" to you and you can post it.

David

Received this amazing photo of "Julia"

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/DSCN0203.jpg

Here's my cat yawl Julia. She was built by Montgomery's Yard in Gloucester in 1985. I had to do quite a lot of work on her when I bought her because she had been out of the water, mostly uncovered, for several years. She is perfect for Lake Champlain.

David

She's beautiful

[rbgarr]

Very nice! Looking at the pics of the two boats it seems that one has the mizzen strut and the other doesn't. It also looks like both boats may have been rigged without the short gaffs of the original design, but that's a guess.

[David Conard]

I have no idea about the one in B.C., but Julia has the short gaffs just as LFH drew her. When I bought her I believe the only deviation from the original design is that she has two berths instead of one full-width one. I added the sliding hatch, which is not in LFH's drawings, and I notice Descant has one as well.

David

[rbgarr]

Yes, now I can see the line made by them inside the sailcovers. Do your gaffs have single halyards? This boat is the only one I've ever seen with those and it looked good. (Peterson's Wild Duck)
http://i15.tinypic.com/7xtvslz.jpg

Nice job on your sliding hatch, and not having the handrails on the cabin top like Descant makes yours look more like a Rozinante cabin.

[johnw]

I've seen that boat sailing near Pt. Townsend. Lovely.

[john l]

i just check my old computer and the lfh cat ketch i was interested in wasn't julia, it was "sybil" built in 1985 by montgomery boat yard in gloucester ma. so that makes 3 of them so far. how do you load a foto?

[john l]

peterson's wild duck is a wonderful boat to sail. a friend owns one, built in the late 80's which i sail on and it is a pleasure to sail. it points higher and faster that i thought it would.

[rbgarr]

The pic I put up there is the original Wild Duck, but I haven't seen her around here for a number of years. Is she in PT now?

[MiddleAgesMan]

http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/images/descant01.jpg



Now I know where Halsey got his inspiration for the Freedom 33.

[David Conard]

John,
Julia is Sybil. I re-christened her after I got her back in shape. The name Sybil reminded me of a B-movie, and the name clearly hadn't been kind to her. I named her after my grandmother, an avid sailor who lived to the age of 90. If you were looking seriously at Sybil, you know that I've done a fair amount of work on her.
David

[David Conard]

rbgarr,
She has peak and throat halyards.
David

[outofthenorm]

http://www.markwallaceshipwright.com/images/moonbeam01.jpg

Pant, Drool, Swoon, Faint. By gum, that's gorgeous.

- Norm

[john l]

John,
Julia is Sybil. I re-christened her after I got her back in shape. The name Sybil reminded me of a B-movie, and the name clearly hadn't been kind to her. I named her after my grandmother, an avid sailor who lived to the age of 90. If you were looking seriously at Sybil, you know that I've done a fair amount of work on her.
David

beautiful job david. love the color combo! nice job of the cabin sides and combing too. did you replace all that wood? rebuild the cabin house? that port lite looks very sweet and much nicer than the original round ones. what structural work to you undertake?
did you have to move the engine location?

[rbgarr]

More on the Rhodes Narwhal canoe stern cutter here. The boomkin really does look like a narwhal! http://astro.temple.edu/~bstavis/pr/narwhal.htm (http://astro.temple.edu/%7Ebstavis/pr/narwhal.htm)

[David Conard]

Thanks John. I relocated the engine drastically. It is now located on wood blocks in my barn, and the auxiliary power is a pair of 10' Shaw and Tenney oars. I concluded there was no need for a 9hp inboard in a 3600# sailboat, and it was screwing up the trim badly (she was down in the stern by about 2"). The only "structural" work was some reinforcement around the mainmast step. The cabin house was built of 3/4" marine plywood with an exterior veneer. The old veneer was rotting (and painted white). We removed that and replaced it with book-matched mahogany, and replaced the eyebrow molding and quarter-round. Replacing the veneer enabled me to go with the oval fixed portlights. The coamings, cockpit benches, cockpit sole, etc. are refinished, with much elbow grease. The teak deck had been payed with white caulk, which was deteriorated, and varnished. I stripped and leveled it, re-payed with black and left it raw. We gave the house top a marine plywood overlay, and two layers of dynel and epoxy. The masts still have some staining, but that adds character. The topsides are Kirby green-grey, and the housetop is Kirby's taupe. That's just the basics. There was a bunch more stuff, but I was lucky to get to her just before serious rot set in.

[john l]

i knew she was a diamond in the rough. yes the trim was way off with that engine. i think that cat ketch rig would be about perfect. how do you like sailing her? where in vt are you located?

[David Conard]

She's really fun to sail (sails herself upwind when you trim the mizzen right). She's fast for a full-keel catboat that draws 3', but she's no racer. We are just south of Burlington. I moor her in Charlotte, near Point Bay Marina.

[john l]

next time i'm in the area i'll look for her.

[dredbob]

.....and the auxiliary power is a pair of 10' Shaw and Tenney oars.....

David,

I'd like to hear more about your experiences rowing this boat, how the oarlocks are set up, etc., and your technique.

Bob

[David Conard]

Bob,
The oarlock sockets are attached to the outside of the cockpit coaming. I have a pair of long-shaft oarlocks and row standing up between the mizzen and the cabin. There is a hook on the port mizzen shroud where I hang the main boom to keep it out of my way. She's no whitehall, but once you get her moving she goes along pretty well.

David

[Yeadon]

bump.

There's one in Bellingham for sail on Craigslist.

I've got no connection other than the fact I think this little cat yawl is a really pretty design.

I should also add that every once in a while, I see a boat that makes me think, hmmm, maybe I do need a bigger boat. Not that I'm interested ...http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/654113419.html

http://images.craigslist.org/01150201021101040220080423d364fd932ed7a6c47400ac9f .jpg