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Velocity
01-25-2008, 10:04 PM
Looking for a design that can be made out of wood to be a competitive sportboat to race PHRF in "light to medium air" in the Great Lakes of the U.S.
Any ideas from 20 feet to 28 feet, using a standard alum. or carbon rig from another boat/class?
Will be lake racing in air from 3knots to 20knots and zero to 1.5 feet of chop. Desire to point upwind and use both an A and S Spin downwind in primarily protected waters of Muskegon Lake, GT Bay, and Charlevoix. No offshore at this point.
Wan't to have a wood boat built to be competitive, but also to last and to take 4 people for a social sail,... Any reasonable ideas?
I will appreciate any interesting input?
- Velocity
Yes, I have sailed on a range of cruising and race boats thru the GL 70!
Yes, I am willing to hear from designers on a custom one-off boat.
Velocity
01-25-2008, 10:27 PM
Looking for a design that can be made out of wood to be a competitive sportboat to race PHRF in "light to medium air" in the Great Lakes of the U.S.
Any ideas from 20 feet to 28 feet, using a standard alum. or carbon rig from another boat/class?
Will be lake racing in air from 3knots to 20knots and zero to 1.5 feet of chop. Desire to point upwind and use both an A and S Spin downwind in primarily protected waters of Muskegon Lake, GT Bay, and Charlevoix. No offshore at this point.
Wan't to have a wood boat built to be competitive, but also to last and to take 4 people for a social sail,... Any reasonable ideas?
I will appreciate any interesting input?
- Velocity
Yes, I have sailed on a range of cruising and race boats thru the GL 70!
Yes, I am willing to hear from designers on a custom one-off boat.
All wood except the rig and keel of course.
Competitive, flat bottom, in say mahogany ply? or in non rot veneer?
Ben Fuller
01-25-2008, 10:28 PM
There was a wickedly competitive PHRF'd Raven in the Mystic area some years ago. I think she was one of the wood ones. And I think 210s have been PHRF'd. While they are now in glass, they were designed for wood; it would be interesting to add a assymetrical to one.
DGentry
01-25-2008, 11:05 PM
Well, it's not a sportboat, but it is a dominant PHRF racer and easily fulfills all your other requirements, excepting the use of an asymmetrical spinnaker. It's the Thunderbird. They rock.
Or, here are some plywood sport boats I've had my eye on:
http://dixdesign.com/26didi.htm
http://dixdesign.com/did23rig.jpg
or
http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=SB18
http://www.bateau.com/prodimages/SB18_350.jpg
or
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/beckwith/i550/index.htm
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/beckwith/i550/sailing019.jpg
keyhavenpotterer
01-26-2008, 01:33 AM
I550 class page here
http://www.i550.org/
looks pretty hot. Brian
paladin
01-26-2008, 04:02 AM
I would second the Thunderbird.......with a couple of mods....keel construction is damn good and it works, there's a lotta unecessary drag....it needs fairing. The rudder works much better with a small leading edge skeg and an outboard rudder, especially if you make it slightly thicker and make a clean foil with it, as when it goes hard over it can stall. Simple, easy build design. Laminate all the solid wood and reduce scantlings by 20%. It was designed to use fir ply either a-b Exterior grade or marine...instead, use good grade marine ply in mm thicknesses and the next size thinner. The boat will be lighter and stiffer.
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