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InTheBeech
01-26-2008, 04:26 PM
How would I locate and purchase plans for some of Philip's designs, particularly a few that are shown in "Small Boats?"
Thanks all,
Ed
Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
I copied the address from the Bolger Yahoo group which you might find useful, too: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/
P.L.Lenihan
01-26-2008, 05:25 PM
It may be worth keeping in mind too that all the designs in SMALL BOATS are over 35 years old and the designer a) may no longer have a particular design available or b) has designed an "improved" or better model since the original and thus may wish to encourage you to take that direction rather then the old.
He is also over 80 years old and fully engaged in lots of new,fresh design work. Patience will be a good thing to have in hand since the bulk of his correspondence is best enjoyed via snail mail.
Which designs are you contemplating, if I may be so bold to ask? :)
Peter
DGentry
01-26-2008, 05:40 PM
A number of Bolger's smaller designs are marketed by Harold Payson. Check it out here: http://instantboats.com/
InTheBeech
01-27-2008, 10:31 AM
Peter,
I don't mind at all. Thank you , in fact, for oferring to help. As you can see in my other post, I am interested in 14-18 foot day sailers (which could be rigged with a tarp for an overnight) and weekenders; traditional construction ( steam bent or sawn frames ofer planked hull with a heafty backbone. from the plans in the above-mentioned book, I am intrigued by Lynx and Monhegan. Neither is exactly what I'd like, but I am very much enjoying looking at these designs. As I say in my other post, a wooden version of the O'day Typhoon (daysailer or Weekender) would be perfect. I've spent an entire day looking over much within the Mystic collection as well. I stumbled on this book in the library and am very interested. I am still about a year away ( I need to finish the ten foot lapstrake skiff that I am currently working on and then don't want to split my time building another boat and enjoying my new skiff, this Summer) from actually laying lines for this new boat.
Thanks,
Ed
tchiffriller
02-04-2008, 10:09 AM
I didn't know that there was an O'day typhoon. But i know there is a Cape Dory Typhoon. If you meant the building of a wooden cape dory typhoon I would be really interested in looking at the plans.
Thank You,
Tommy
JimConlin
02-04-2008, 10:29 AM
If it's the Alberg Typhoon (built by Cape Dory) which you like, I have two comments.
It's a very good design.
The existing glass boats are very reasonably priced, probably less than the materials and components for a new build. Building such a boat today is not an economic decision.
tchiffriller
02-04-2008, 11:51 AM
Ok. Your probably right. There is a very active fleet where i live (rappahanock river, chesapeake bay) and would like to purchase a very inexpensive one. Any ideas?
- tommy
tchiffriller
02-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Sorry about hijacking your thread
al ailsworth
02-06-2008, 02:07 PM
If you were at the Turkey Shoot Regatta this year, there were several Cape Dory Typhoons in the event. All were in excellent condition. If you look carefully one usually can be found in reasonably good condition for a very reasonable price. They make a good project boat!
Al
Deltaville
tchiffriller
02-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Hello Al,
I wasn't at the Turkey Shoot Regatta because it just so happens that the Annapolis Boat show and the Turkey shoot where on the same weekend. But two weeks ago a went to talk to Stan Crocket (I think his first name is stan) who one first place in his division on his Cape Dory. They look like great boats.
Thanks,
Tommy
al ailsworth
02-06-2008, 02:47 PM
BTY- If you are interested in a wooden sailboat, an older 35' ketch is available in Deltaville- solid, good condition, used very little. The owner lives in NC, and kills himself keeping her up. I think anywhere between 15-18K will take her away. If interested, reply through private messages and I will send you his e mail address.
Al
tchiffriller
02-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Hahaha I wish. Im 14 and kinda have a limited budget. I currently own a Chrysler Mutineer and Sail it over to Deltaville from Mousquito Creek alot(when its warm out).
Tommy
al ailsworth
02-06-2008, 07:01 PM
Sail on young man! May the wind and waves serve you well!!
tchiffriller
02-06-2008, 10:49 PM
Thank you. I hope that they do.
kengrome
02-08-2008, 12:49 AM
I am interested in 14-18 foot day sailers which could be rigged with a tarp for an overnight ...
Maybe Walkabout would work for you, it's a John Welsford design:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jw/walkabout/tent-color.gif
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jw/walkabout/walk-1.jpg
sngatlanta
02-09-2008, 06:09 PM
Forgive me if I'm crashing into your disscusion but I thinks this question goes along here. How much information is contained in Boats with an Open Mind on building any one of Bloger's designs. Must one still get the plans.
seanz
02-09-2008, 07:26 PM
Sngatlanta
'Boats with an open mind' contains lots of offsets but only brief discriptions of construction techniques.
If you are interested in Bolger's designs or boat design in general it is well worth owning a copy.
Tom Montgomery
02-09-2008, 07:53 PM
Boats with an Open Mind contains no building plans and only brief discriptions of construction techniques.If I recall correctly Boats with an Open Mind includes tables of offset... so a boat could be built straight from the book.
I would much prefer to have the full-size plans and official OK to build from the designer. I wrote to Mr. Bolger this summer inquiring about the price of the plans for Spartina. I also asked him about the electric-powered version I had heard of. He promptly wrote a nice note back and included a copy of the "Messing About In Boats" article about the electric-Spartina. Plans for the original Spartina are $100US. I intend to send for them in a month or so. When they arrive I'll let you know how they differ from the info in the book.
seanz
02-10-2008, 03:02 AM
If I recall correctly
And you do....and I don't and the book was all of 20' away........
HM2Viking
02-26-2008, 01:41 AM
I bought a set of plans for a Micro from Common sense boats. I can't start building til after my daughters graduation in June. Any hints?
P.L.Lenihan
02-26-2008, 02:46 AM
HM2Viking,
Check out and join the Bolger Yahoo group for LOTS of MICRO information...do a search in the group archieves.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/
You may also wish to check out this:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro2/index.htm
and this:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro/index.htm
and just for the fun of it while you are waiting to get things started:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/champlain/index.htm
Enjoy and good luck!!
Peter
P.L.Lenihan
02-26-2008, 02:55 AM
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc07b3127cceb5d0f5f3d6b900000026102BauGzJmyZQh ttp://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc07b3127cceb5d0f6fb171800000026102BauGzJmyZQ
Just a couple of pictures to get your juices flowing :)
Peter
tchiffriller
02-27-2008, 02:11 PM
Didn't Phillip Bolger design a boat called the one man schooner or something like that?
Steve Paskey
02-27-2008, 03:25 PM
Yup -- the single-handed schooner. Interesting boat, but she uses a weighted daggerboat that weighs 130 lbs ... think of it as a removable keel.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/projects/schooner/boat12.jpg
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/journey/singlehanded.gif
tchiffriller
02-27-2008, 03:30 PM
That looks like a fun boat. Do you own one? Is the plan for it in one of his books?
There's also his Folding Schooner, plans at Payson's place (http://www.instantboats.com/fschooner.htm), WBF thread and more links (http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=66141)
tchiffriller
02-28-2008, 07:15 PM
Wow that light schooner is something. I really like the looks of it and it has such a narrow beam. It must fly.
andrewe
02-29-2008, 03:26 AM
From what I have read on the Light Schooner it is good at teaching you to swim. Needs a couple of crew, looks the goods and easy to build.
So talk to some like-minded friends;) (who can swim)
Andrew
HM2Viking
03-01-2008, 03:44 AM
Peter,
I don't mind at all. Thank you , in fact, for oferring to help. As you can see in my other post, I am interested in 14-18 foot day sailers (which could be rigged with a tarp for an overnight) and weekenders; traditional construction ( steam bent or sawn frames ofer planked hull with a heafty backbone. from the plans in the above-mentioned book, I am intrigued by Lynx and Monhegan. Neither is exactly what I'd like, but I am very much enjoying looking at these designs. As I say in my other post, a wooden version of the O'day Typhoon (daysailer or Weekender) would be perfect. I've spent an entire day looking over much within the Mystic collection as well. I stumbled on this book in the library and am very interested. I am still about a year away ( I need to finish the ten foot lapstrake skiff that I am currently working on and then don't want to split my time building another boat and enjoying my new skiff, this Summer) from actually laying lines for this new boat.
Thanks,
Ed
Look at the micro or stretched micro...
HM2Viking
03-01-2008, 03:45 AM
HM2Viking,
Check out and join the Bolger Yahoo group for LOTS of MICRO information...do a search in the group archieves.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/
You may also wish to check out this:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro2/index.htm
and this:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro/index.htm
and just for the fun of it while you are waiting to get things started:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/champlain/index.htm
Enjoy and good luck!!
Peter
From one Peter to another Thanks!
P.L.Lenihan
03-01-2008, 04:32 AM
And right back at you Peter;you're most welcome! :)
Peter
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