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Stu Fyfe
02-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Not sure how this slipped under the radar, but check this nice piece done on Ian McColgin, Emily Ferguson and his catboat Marmalade.
http://www.wickedlocal.com/dennis/fun/x1992198743
StevenBauer
02-12-2008, 08:21 AM
Thanks, Stu. :)
Steven
S.V. Airlie
02-12-2008, 08:21 AM
Ah yes, good to see... I knew I should have fixed the radar.. OOOPS.. what radar?
Thanks Stu for the looksee...
Ian McColgin
02-12-2008, 08:23 AM
Thank you Stu. This version is better than the print that appeared in the Register.
When you get to the sailing pix, you'll see that I took her down to two reefs with the lifts and jacks all tight for ease on landing. The dock face was a tight reach. I actually took three passes before I was happy with the momentum and coasted in, dropping the sail just before bearing off to port to coast in.
This the Marmalade business grates my teeth. Bah, humbug.
She's Marmalade.
But, Ian.
We've got to do something about that cat idea, or the Scottish marmalade jar idea, this year.
Very nice to view Marmalade and looks like a great way to rid oneself of SAD symptoms. (Note I did not say the Marmalade)
abe
ex Cape Codda
rdrishel
02-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Hey That was nice,
Real people sailing a real boat, Thanks.
Would you mind telling me where I could buy one of those hats you are wearing. I am always in pursuit of a better hat for being on the water.
Rod Rishel
Kim Whitmyre
02-12-2008, 01:48 PM
A very pleasant way to spend a winter day, eh? :)
Jeez. Ian. I was looking at the pic from the bow.
The bottom's really grown up with stuff. Time for a scrub.
Ian McColgin
02-12-2008, 02:16 PM
That's what haul-out is for. It's been a problem all the life of the boat and this spring I'm raising the waterline to the top of the present boot, with a boot above that.
PeterSibley
02-12-2008, 04:08 PM
Thanks ! That is a type you don't see in Australia !
P.L.Lenihan
02-12-2008, 04:13 PM
Lovely photos! If I didn't live so far away Mr.McColgin, I'd give ya an honest 2 weeks of my time to completely wood and refresh all the bright work and maybe even the cockpit for a chance to spend a weekend on her sailing. What a jewel she is :)
Peter
Nice - thanks! She one hefty lass - Marmalade, that is.
Lion
Thanks ! That is a type you don't see in Australia !
You don't have catboats down under? How did you escape?
Nice - thanks! She one hefty lass - Marmalade, that is.
Lion
Heftier than I! And yes, she's not a small boat, and not lightweight either.
J. Dillon
02-12-2008, 06:38 PM
I'd like to view the slide show but when I click on it nothing happens, Just the one image. :confused: How does one get past this?
JD
When I do it I have to click on the start button as well. It doesn't run by itself upon launching the slideshow window.
Ian McColgin
02-12-2008, 07:25 PM
She is hefty. How many other 25 foot boats displace six tons?
skuthorp
02-12-2008, 07:44 PM
Great looking boat Ian, very businesslike. Interesting bow, almost like a tug. Nice to see a boat that gets regular use too, fair wear and tear has it's own attraction. Topsides she seems to have a lot of camber, what does she draw?
I don't think I've seen a Catboat here, JohnB wrote about one that was brought to NZ but the rig was altered because it was not suitable for local conditions. There was an explanation but maybe that's the answer.
Lew Barrett
02-12-2008, 08:42 PM
Nice show, nice couple, nice boat. She certainly has the beam of a much larger vessel. Looking at her from astern or forward, she seems huge.
rbgarr
02-12-2008, 09:14 PM
There used to be a lot more of them around but many have disappeared since Gareth moved to New England. I suspect there's some connection. ;)
BETTY-B
02-12-2008, 09:32 PM
That's great. Marmalade is a beauty.
I just watched it one more time and saw one of the seven documented BETTY B's in the back ground on the last shot! Cool!
DAN
Nice show, nice couple, nice boat. She certainly has the beam of a much larger vessel. Looking at her from astern or forward, she seems huge.
She's only 25', really not all that big except for a catboat.
You should see Tigress.
http://www.landsedgephoto.com/ELFCRW_36149.jpg
and:
http://www.landsedgephoto.com/ELFCRW_36145.jpg
Kim Whitmyre
02-12-2008, 09:53 PM
I'd like to view the slide show but when I click on it nothing happens, Just the one image. :confused: How does one get past this?
JD
JD, it might be opening in a new window, underneath the initial window...that's what it did to me. Only took me a while to get it. ;)
It's a very slow slide show, have patience.
P.L.Lenihan
02-12-2008, 11:10 PM
ELF,
Those are drop dead beautiful pictures of TIGRESS. Would you happen to have more photos and perhaps a wee bit of history regarding her?
Thanks!
Peter
Slip the pic off the page and I think it's got some provenance info embedded in it. I found some stuff on the Catboat Asso. site when I was keywording the pix last fall.
I didn't get to shoot her after the rendezvous. I have no idea even of where she went, whether she came to the lobster boil at the museum or anything.
I think she lives in CT somewhere, like Branford or so.
Here's one more from that day:
http://www.landsedgephoto.com/ELFCRW_36147.jpg
1927, built by Charles Anderson, one of the Monument Beach (MA) catboat designers of which C. C. Hanley was the father figure. (Mo Beach is on the Cape Cod side of Buzzards Bay just SW of the mouth of the CC Canal.)
That's probably all I found out when I was doing the captions.
rufustr
02-13-2008, 01:00 AM
Peter,
There was a catboat at the wooden boat show in Hobart last year.
The only one I've ever seen in the flesh.
If Picasa didn't crash my computer every time i try to use it I'd post a photo.
Elf,
Thanks for the pictures.
as I recall, Tigress is 31'. I'm surprised you guys down there don't have little catboat type dinghys. We have lots of them.
Do you have lots of deep water?
As for Picasa, get more RAM.
P.L.Lenihan
02-14-2008, 01:31 AM
Thanks for the info ELF and again for those pictures!! My thoughts come to a complete,gentle and sweet stop each time I look at the first picture in your group(post No.23)
Peter
P.L.Lenihan
02-14-2008, 01:50 AM
While thoroughly enjoying being put into a trance by those pictures of TIGRESS which ELF posted, my eyes keeps focusing on the halyards. To wit, it appears that the throat halyard and peak halyard come down on either side of the cabin.Would not this make it rather difficult to quickly raise and or lower the mainsail by forcing one to leap, side to side, handling each halyard a bit at a time? Or, am I looking at a topping lift on the port side and the peak and throat halyards run back on the starboard side? In the first picture of TIGRESS, I can only see a single line running back from each of the turning blocks on either side of the mast. Perhaps Mr. McClolgin could illuminate better what I may not be able to see clearly?
Thanks,
Peter
Ian McColgin
02-14-2008, 06:55 AM
There may be two lines, throat and peak halyards, to starboard. Whatever that is to port does not have much of a coiled tail so I bet that's the topping lift let out a ways. The lift also has tackle out at the end of the boom that probably leads forward on the boom far enough to reach when the boom's centered.
I don't like sailing a boat of such heft without the ability to reef underweigh. I also wonder about the double companionway, though one could be a grand route to a master stateroom.
Fabulous looking boat.
Nice people, boat and show. Thanks for sharing.
If you don't mind 'Ghost and Mrs. Muir' comes to my mind.:) Don't know why?
Cheers,
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
02-14-2008, 09:24 AM
Ian Great photos ;)
That profile 'Ghost and Mrs. Muir' photo of you should be your new avatar, lookin goood ;)
As for the scum line at the boot stripe Tidbit seems to attract the same scum in the same place. It might be the turn of the bilge on Catboats. I love the reverse plumb bow and the hatch lights so salty she makes yer eyes rust :)
I'd have to make the new avatar for him. And put it up, to boot!
What do you say, Ian? Want a new avatar?
Hughman
02-14-2008, 10:19 AM
Very nice.
Ian McColgin
02-14-2008, 10:30 AM
Emily's photo remains the best portrait I've had and a most suitable avatar.
All boaters like great shots of their boats, but Emily also gets the sailors, recognizable and interesting, which increases the chances of the subject yachties making an investment.
Maybe when we're in Mystic this spring for the WoodenBoat Show we should see if we can make an appointment with Tigress and go on a shop visit? I might be able to locate the owner.
rbgarr
02-14-2008, 10:46 AM
I've never seen a cat with double companionways like that. Expensive but interesting. I wonder if there's a wall separating cabins below.
Interesting. There are 2 cleats on the port side.
Anybody wanna speculate about this:
http://www.landsedgephoto.com/Tigressexcerpt.jpg
P.L.Lenihan
02-15-2008, 07:39 AM
Elf,I would hazard a guess that it may perhaps be for a jib halyard as this cat has a nice bowsprit just begging for such a device in calm airs,in particular, a huge drifter.:)
Regarding my previous question, the stern port quarter shot appears to show only a single line running back from each block at the base of the mast and some other lines dropping down from along side the mast but they do not lead to any turning blocks.....at least not that I can see.
Thanks Mr.McColgin. I like your notion of the second companionway perhaps leading to a grand master stateroom.Now that would be classy :)
Peter
Whatever it's for, how does the line get there when we can't see it coming down the deck from the bow.
rbgarr
02-15-2008, 08:37 AM
http://www.landsedgephoto.com/ELFCRW_36149.jpg
The double turning block on the port side of the mast has one halyard that leads to the port cabintop cleats. The outer sheave could esily be for a jib halyard, as suggested.
Ian McColgin
02-15-2008, 10:02 AM
I agree with much of rbgarr’s speculations.
Looking closely at pic at posts 23 & 48, the blocks on either sided of the mast appear to be doubles. Only one line leads back on port side, evidently extended as there’s only a bit flemished, as Emily shows in the enlargement at 45. To starboard I see three vertical lines; two appear to reach the block and the third, like one of the lines on the port side, appears to terminate at the deck. It’s natural that the two lines leading aft would appear as one from this camera angle. At the starboard back end of the coach, we see two lines that appear to go down, perhaps to a coil, on the bridge deck, consistent with throat and peak halyards.
At 24 we can’t see the throat halyard, but it could easily be hidden by the mast. The port block looks less like a double but from that angle this means nothing. What’s with the flag or rag under the bowsprit? Speaking of which, it looks like they used the same headstay when adding the bowsprit, with the chain as an extension. Cheap enough but I do not like to rely on chain for such an application.
I don’t see a jib halyard end reaching the end of the bowsprit. Perhaps it’s one of the two lines that go to the foredeck.
In the pic at #24 it appears there are two lines coming down to the deck on the port side. Possibly a blowup of the bow of the #29 pic would show what’s up there.
For now, my speculation is that the jib halyard’s haul leads back to that port cleat at the cockpit while the hoist side to deck on the port and that there’s another front of the mast halyard leading to deck on each side, one of which then leads to that stuff on the cleat on the front of the mast. This is led to each side while sailing to keep it from rattling on the mast, binding the hoops, etc.
I very much admire the non-fouling design of Tigress’s traveler though I’d mount the stern cleats further forward for safer gibing.
Most interesting.
It’s sparer than Marmalades coachroof that sports, out to in port side:
Port quarter lift, third reef clew, third reef tack, second reef clew, second reef tack, first reef clew, first reef tack. Outboard in on the starboard side, quarter lift, peak halyard, throat halyard.
Your deck is so busy because of the reefing lines. If you were willing to reef like Tigress and Kathleen you'd be free of that clutter, of course.
I wonder what Mr. Fuller thinks about reefing Tigress, especially solo.
Ian McColgin
02-15-2008, 01:15 PM
The boom is short enough that it could be done, albeit painfully, hove-to, boom centered, gaff horizontal, helm down.
Here's some more direct info about Tigress from Roger Fuller, her current owner:
Tigress is in Mystic now, covered up for the winter across the street from the Daniel Packer Inn. She is rigged very simply with a 4:1 tackle at the throat and a 3:1 peak from a block on the upper mast, to a block on a bridle on the gaff, back to a higher block on the upper mast, and out to the end of the gaff. There is also a topping lift and lazyjacks. The sheet is a 3:1 tackle. The two hatches were originally both companionways with ladders. When I bought the boat, the previous owner had built a galley on the starboard side in the space where the ladder would go, and built a new cockpit bulkhead with a sill at the level of the cockpit table. Both hatches work, the port is the companionway and we use the starboard for ventilation and to pass food and drinks up*from the galley. We built the cockpit table around a 3.5 cu-ft 12<mailto:!@VDC>VDC*refrigerator and the boat has a hot water heater which can feed the sink in the galley or a shower fitting in the cockpit. I probably won't have Tigress at the WoodenBoat Show, that is for people trying to sell their boats or services. I will be at the Mystic Seaport Antique and Classic Boat Rendezvous the 4th weekend of July, and maybe a few random events like the Herreshoff.
He also attached a photograph of the cockpit looking forward. I'll post it if he permits.
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