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djswan
02-29-2008, 01:38 PM
Howdy all,

I have to build a set of stairs or a ladder. It's for a house in tight quarters. It shouldn't be a code issue if the space is considered an attic.

Jefferson steps maybe? or something?

and thanks

Derek

Figment
02-29-2008, 02:00 PM
Erase the word "attic" from your vocabulary.

The term you're groping for is "Not Habitable".

Dave R
02-29-2008, 02:10 PM
Check out this link: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/at-europe/at-europe-london-closeup-the-amazing-staircase-042543

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/ny/leoniestair.jpg

djswan
02-29-2008, 02:11 PM
Very good advise, in a code world. :D I was remembering my childhood and not so much groping, but the term may still apply:D

Yes indeed, a non-habitable space is above, but people still need to access this space now and then. I'm looking for some interesting historic solutions to get to this non-habitable space. ;)

djswan
02-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Check out this link: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/at-europe/at-europe-london-closeup-the-amazing-staircase-042543

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/ny/leoniestair.jpg


Nice. Thanks

Derek

djswan
02-29-2008, 02:36 PM
Canoe paddles for a ladder rungs?

ron ll
02-29-2008, 02:54 PM
What if you start with the wrong foot?:D

Dave R
02-29-2008, 03:30 PM
What if you start with the wrong foot?:D

You'd only do it once. Well, unless of course you were me. :D

gert
02-29-2008, 05:35 PM
That's just plain scary :eek:

At least put some anti skid grooves near the nosing, say 3 rows about an inch CL

Ron Williamson
02-29-2008, 05:44 PM
Historic solutions?
12" rise/7"run
R

Thorne
02-29-2008, 06:33 PM
You could custom-build one of these -
http://www.industrialladder.com/userImages/productImages/ATTICWH1_10.jpg

As for the Jefferson Stairs -
http://www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=01;action=display;num=1108838907
http://www.rosschapin.com/Plans/Cottage/Hilltop/images/Hilltop-08.jpg
http://www.rosschapin.com/Plans/Cottage/Lisette/images/Lisette6.jpg

George Roberts
02-29-2008, 06:49 PM
Attic access does not have to be code compliant.

If you like some version of a ship ladder, by all means use it.

djswan
02-29-2008, 07:48 PM
Ship ladder sounds workable. 8.5 ft rise, 6ft run, might be able to push 7ft run. Still like to be safe. Any experience on Jefferson stairs?

merlinron
02-29-2008, 08:19 PM
jeffersons are a pain in the but, or is it the shin, or in the knee. commercial aplications ,somewhat common in past years, are being replaced with a ship's ladder all over the place.... insurance compliance. one place where i will say that insurance companies are actually doing something constructive and moral for once.

djswan
02-29-2008, 08:35 PM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/swanwood/steepstairs.jpg

This pitch looks right. I'm seeing red flags with the Jefferson's.

katiedobe
03-01-2008, 09:55 AM
cool link to the staircase page.