camping gaz

[Thad Van Gilder]

My new boat gas a gimble 1 burner camping gaz stove (The poke a hole in the top kind) and a gimbled 3 burner camping gaz stove off a Farr 40. My question is, Where do you buy this stuff?

-Thad

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

The poke a hole in the top kind - is widely available in the UK - I presume you mean the C206 190 gram tin - these are available with a large number of different labels - including Coleman - so may be available in the USA.

These are my all-time least favourite stove - I once burned a competition slalom boat to the ground with one - spectacular.


http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=824

[Thad Van Gilder]

They have to be available here somewhere!

-Thad

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Yes, but you don't have to use them!

(Another Camping Gaz hater)

[paladin]

I get mine at the local Walmart, K-Mart, Home Despot etc......but I have it for power out emergencies, not for boat use....I have a gimballed kerosene sea swing for that....

[Thad Van Gilder]

is was in walmart, they have other patterns of gas cartirdges, but not this stupid freakin blue thing. I have bought 5 different fuel cartridges trying to find one that works...


-Thad

[Nordicthug]

Try REI, and I've had good luck surfing craigslist. The C206 cannisters are available and still being made but are hard to find here. I have half a dozen or so stoves that use them including two sea swingy ones. The cannisters can't be mailed, but can be UPS'd or Fed-Ex'd.

There are many brands of those canisters in many colors, look for the little dimple in the top, that's the giveaway. Also you'll want the 190 gram size. There's a half size can you may stumble across that will not work in your stove.

Pay no mind to P.I. Stazzer-Newt, he's Welsh you see, and talks funny. He also has a craven fear of anything flammable except parrafin. (Kerosene)

I have had very good success with Gaz type stoves over the years.

Nordicthug

[Steve Paskey]

They have to be available here somewhere!

That could be a real problem. The ONLY place I've seen them recently is in specialized camping equipment stores like REI or Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS).

The camping gaz stoves were never all that popular in the U.S. to begin with, and they've been pushed aside in favor of stoves that use competing canister systems. REI still sells the blue camping gaz canisters, but I'm not sure they sell any stoves that use them -- what does that tell you?

If there isn't an REI, EMS, or something similar nearby, I'd use google maps to track down sporting goods stores and anybody who sells camping equipment, and start making phone calls. Or else order them online and have them shipped UPS.

[Canoez]

REI and EMS are good places to look. So is Campmor and Gleason's Camper's supply. All of them should be able to sell you these cartridges and ship UPS ground.

Gaz cartdridges are getting hard to find in the us. The MSR style canisters with the threaded collar and the seal are much more popular and reliable cartridges. You can remove them from the stove and the don't leak.

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

is was in walmart, they have other patterns of gas cartirdges, but not this stupid freakin blue thing. I have bought 5 different fuel cartridges trying to find one that works...


-Thad

Picture would be good - Thugee points out that there are non-standard piercable canisters such as the half-sized C103 (as used in the original Globetrotter) - if this is the free standing Bluet stove like this
http://www.outdoorgear.co.uk/pix/big/531005.jpg

I'd not have it on a boat - horribly unstable.

[Thad Van Gilder]

mine isn't tippy. its a sea swing type deal. and the 3 burner... that's a sea swing also.

[Dave Davis]

REI has 'em for sure cause that's where we got ours after an extensive search web and otherwise. EMS down the street don't carry them.

Our local REI is in Cranston RI and they're in stock, can't say for mail order.

[Nicholas Scheuer]

I've found them at Gander Mountain, BUT they are a newer design that is NOT interchangable with the original blue type (circa late 1980's).

I should look at REI, as suggested by someone above, but the nearest REI store is in the Chicago area 85 miles fom here.

I have a gimballed stove of my own design, originally fueled with Sterno, that I made in the early 1980's. It took too long to boil water for coffee, so I redesigned the lower end of the stove to support Camping Gaz cannisters I found at REI in Minneapolis.

When the old blue Camping Gaz cannisters became hard to find (I once found some at K-Mart) I again redesigned the lower part of the stove to work with the current short, fat Coleman propane cylinders.

Two problems with Camping Gaz (long a popular hiking/camping stove in Europe) are that the fuel cannot be shipped by ordinary means (like UPS and Fed-Ex) and also that Camping Gaz is now owned by COLEMAN. Care to guess why we see a preponderance of Coleman products?

I sympathize with the loss of a boat someone above suffered, but I was always satisfied with GAZ propane/butane fuel. The lower end of my gymballed stove is assembled with machine screws anbd wing nuts. If I ever again find Gamping Gaz conveniently, I would be able to dissassemble the Colman bracket and again use the Camping Gaz support bracket, which remders the stove a much smaller, lighter unit.

Moby Nick

[Nicholas Carey]

You may be SOL. The company's web site (http://www.campingaz.com/) doesn't list the US, Canada or Mexico on their find-a-dealer page.

There's a big chain camping/outdoor gear store in Paris, Au Vieux Campeur, that I've shopped at, that stocks most sizes. And they do mail order.

Au Vieux Campeur
48, rue des Ecoles
75005 Paris
France
tel: 01.53.10.48.48
fax: 01.46.34.14.16
email: infos@auvieuxcampeur.fr

http://www.au-vieux-campeur.fr/

The C 206 cartridge runs 1.8 EU at the moment. The plus side is that if you order from europe, you shouldn't get dinged the 17+% VAT.

No idea what shipping pressure bottles full of butane -- internationally, and by air :eek: -- might entail, but it's probably not pretty.

It rather sad that Camping Gaz is now a yet another Ron Perelman subsidiary (Ron Perelman's holding company, McAndrew & Forbes, Inc., owns, among others, Sunbeam (appliances), Coleman (outdoor gear), Camping Gaz (ditto), Revlon (cosmetics), Boston Whaler (boats), Mastercraft (ditto), etc.

[Steve Paskey]

You may be SOL. The company's web site (http://www.campingaz.com/) doesn't list the US, Canada or Mexico on their find-a-dealer page.

Don't believe everything you read online: I was looking at camping stoves at REI in Sacramento just last Sunday and they had a bin full of the camping gaz cartridges.

If REI is not listed as a dealer, it's probably because they don't sell the camping gaz stoves -- only the cartridges. And for good reason -- MSR, Snowpeak, Primus, and JetBoil all make good cartridge stoves, and the fuel they use (a propane/isobutane mix) is better than camping gaz. The straight butane was never a good idea due to poor performance in even moderately cold weather. (From what I've read, butane is undependable under 40 deg. F, and useless below 32.)

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

The straight Butane was always an unsatisfactory fuel - but France had a 30% propane mix form quite early on - this gets a mention in one of Bonnington's South West Face books.

The propane butane mixes remain sub-par in low temperatures if used in gas phase stoves as at low temperatures the propane comes off preferentially - there are a few stoves which allow you to use the can inverted... This can be entertaining if you get it wrong.

[andrewe]

I like the screw type C-gaz refillable cylinders. Not fond of the pierce top kind. A friend was waiting for the X channel ferry a few weeks ago and thought he would make some tea in the cab of his van. Fresh cylinder, screw it in. But the washer had perished and it started to leak badly. Had to throw it out of the van, much to the suprise of the others in the queue and the officals. who were not happy at the risk.
I would never have one in a boat.
N.B. No way you can take one in a plane or send by mail.It is a HazMat.
Andrew
BTW, The welsh don´t speak funny, they just don´t speak English ( only kidding Staz :-) )