Sorting out Hartley TS16

[Larks]

Although I've been having a bit of fun (therapy) ripping things off the H28 I really want to get "Vagabond", my Hartley TS16, back on the water for Summer.

I thought I had a couple of days of work to do on her so figured I'd drag her out and spend the next two on her before heading back to Darwin tomorrow night. Unfortunately I'd forgotten the reality of where I'd left off with her six months ago.

It's a miserable rainy day so can't do much else as far as work on the house but a good time to wash the dust off and scrub her out with sugar soap.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/05112008005-1.jpg

It might seem a bit odd washing her on a wet day but when you're on tank water it tends to be the best time for washing cars and so on to save on water.

So the job list is a little longer than I remembered, mainly:

- strip paint to exterior cabin sides and fair up rough old job before repainting
- refit new perspex to cabin (the reason for fairing)
- repaint foredeck
- replace or sister a cracked frame in cabin top
- replace all floor frame timber (probably using Oregon/Douglas fir left over from the house)
- reconstruct cabin bulkhead where rotten frame and paneling has been removed
- fit centreboard pin flanges to CB case(per a previous post)
- repaint all of interior
- strip paint from ply floor panels and repaint
- replace top beam of transom frame (where various owners have cut out chunks for various outboards)
- fit new stainless transom bracket
- patch up and repaint other cabin damage and old repairs



the old floor frames, floor panels and some stock to work from (and H28 rudder)

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/05112008003.jpg

New stainless transom bracket

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/05112008008-1.jpg

However work is temporarily stalled while both I and "Vagabond" dry out and watch the news (me not "Vagabond").

[seanz]

Nice to see someone caring for a classic.
:)

Got your sabre saw ready?

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd164/seanz_2007/ts16-16loa7ft6in-beam-or-48mloa-225.jpg
I think a TS16 without a cabin would be a very handy boat indeed.
:)

[Larks]

That'd save me a fairing job but, no, keeping the sabre saw away fom this one, I enjoy sleeping on board her too much

[seanz]

Just a thought......:)

I wasn't joking about the 'looking after a classic' bit though.

[Larks]

Yes, I agree, this one is hull no. 110, built in 1964 in Sydney. I reckon she might hold the mileage reckord for a Hartley as well, I bought her in Darwin from a guy who found her in Gove (North East NT), before I took her to Hayman Island for a couple of years and back down to the Gold Coast.

[TonyH]

Are those sea miles or road miles? That would be a wonderfully adventurous voyage in a TS16!

[WX]

Keep at it Larks. I will be posting some photos of what I have been up with Redwing soon. All I will say for now is it is involving a lot of short bits of timber and odd shaped bits of plywood.

[Larks]

Are those sea miles or road miles? That would be a wonderfully adventurous voyage in a TS16!

Nah, road miles Tony, the trailer part of trailer sailing. Though it sounds better leaving that part out.

Gary, sounds like you're doing the cabin soles/floors?

[WX]

Nah, working on the WC. I'm putting in a bucket dunny which will use sawdust. The idea is the buckets when full can be brought home and the contents composted...or if required either buried ashore somewhere or just dumped over the side. I would have liked to to have installed an Airhead but at $1200 AUS it's out of reach. besides new 20 litre paint buckets are only $10 each.

[py]

I reckon I had hull no 108 20 odd years ago. Was a bit heavy, made as I recall from 3/8 rather than 1/4 ply. I'd like to get another one day, shorten the cabin to nothing more than a cuddy, maybe 2' long, extend the cockpit seats accordingly, and put in a gaff rig.

[skuthorp]

Look up Sofala Larks, I think he is about in the same stage you are with his Hartley.

[Larks]

Sorry guys, missed a day getting sorted to head back to Darwin (where I am again now).

Py, any idea of what has hppened to your Hartley? Mine is very heavy as well, built in Sydney by a guy called Monty, I've forgotten his full name (will see if I can find it again) but I managed to track him down through the Hartley registry when I bought her a few years back. She was originally named "Camira" or "Chamira" or something (sounded too much like a cheap Holden).

He did say that he and a few mates built a handful of them together back in '64ish, they raced them in Sydney and other mates that followed on after built them much lighter and started beating them, but he doesn't think too many of those Hartleys are still about.

cheers

[Larks]

OK, so a year and a half or so later - (working away from home in Darwin certainly cramps your style as far as working on your boat goes) - but have finally made it back to "Vagabond" to finish her tart up.

She's still not finished but I've been using her as my "study break" for the last few weeks and have managed to get a few things done:

I've replaced my centreboard pin "bolt" with a stainless pin that I can get to easily enough to remove the centreboard without having to rip out a gallon of sikaflex that was used to seal the old bolt and washer set up. It's basically a couple of plumbing fittings with an end cap sealed on with plumbers tape. (Yet to be tested)


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/22112008.jpg


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http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/P9280173.jpg

I've also messed with the centreboard case to close it up and take the slop out of the centreboard. It had way too much movement before so I made up a mould with MDF in way of the centreboard and filled the rest of the centreboard case cavity with epoxy and microballons. This may seem a bit extreme but it will also seal up the CB case as well. Also untested as to whether it resolves the weather helm that she had but otherwise it seems to be all OK (The CB fits back in anyway).

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/P9280172.jpg

Other than that it has been a case of replacing cabin sole frames, sanding and painting so far:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/P9280171.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA140195.jpg

More to come

[Larks]

So plenty of painting action over the last couple of weeks

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA140197.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA300275.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA300272.jpg

And I also knocked up a quick but nifty little cockpit table to slide into the new centreboard case cover:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/07102009002.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/07102009.jpg

It will stow neatly behind the bulkhead.

[Larks]

A guy that worked for me a few years ago made me up some cushions for "Vagabond" but I have had them stored in plastic for the last 5 years or so. But having gotten as far as getting the cabin soles down I couldn't resist pulling them out to finally see how they fit and look:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA300278.jpg


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA300285.jpg

And the cockpit table in place:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/PA300283.jpg

I still have a few cockpit sole frames to finish painting and fit before I can put those soles down. I won't yet repaint the hull but I will repaint all of the cockpit seats, cabin top and decks but I also need to re-fair the cabin sides so that I can mount the new Perspex windows from the outside using double sided foam tape and sikaflex.

[RFNK]

Looks great Greg, nice job! You'd better see if you can get a pair of Bermuda shorts to go with those cushions! Rick

[Candyfloss]

Maaaaate. Too flash for a Hartley!

Bit more than a couple of days work, but.

Excellent job.

[WX]

Can I put my name down as crew for a day?
I've only sailed on a 16 once and I had to content myself to be just a passenger.

[Duncan Gibbs]

I'll be ballast! :D

Great to catch up today mate and a terrific job on Vagabond: Love the table!

[rufustr]

This boat is rapidly becoming too good for you.:o:o

Better wear a harness or she will eject you at the first opportunity.:D:D

[Larks]

Thanks guys, I'm pretty pleased with how she's coming up for an old girl. I hope to have her ready by the time we all get together again.

[WX]

You might to put our names in a hat to see who gets to go first.:D

[Larks]

You might to put our names in a hat to see who gets to go first.:D

No need mate, I've had eight on her before and can sail with six up quite comfortably.

[JimD]

So when do we get to see the outside? Eh? Eh?

[Larks]

So when do we get to see the outside? Eh? Eh?

This is an old photo from when we lived in Darwin, not long after I repainted her hull about 8-9 years ago. But other than the windows being replaced and fitted on the outside with tape and sika' instead of nuts and bolts, plus a new coat of paint around the deck and cabin sides, she won't have changed much externally (from this angle anyway). I'm not planning on repainting the hull again at the moment - maybe next year:).

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/Cgristmas2002023.jpg

[Duncan Gibbs]

Bumpety bumperama Greg!

Wot's bin garn on? Enquiring minds wish to know. :)

[JimJ]

That Duncan is subtle as a sledge hammer

[Duncan Gibbs]

Well Jim I was going to try and put up a thread about doing this raid through Morton Bay at some stage y'know...

Sledge hammers can quite subtle at times as well! :)

[Larks]

Bumpety bumperama Greg!

Wot's bin garn on? Enquiring minds wish to know.


Yep, big goings on here.....I turned the hull last weekend!!!:eek:








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:D:D:o

[Larks]

Actually, since finishing my study I've been getting stuck into work on the house while I have time between contracts (somewhat in case we need to sell it at some stage if no contracts are forthcoming). But I've been fixing a few frames and doing some tinkering to finish up work on the inside, so turning the hull was actually a mini milestone so that I could start re-faring the cabin sides to paint them and fit the windows.

Here's a cracked cabin top frame that I just sistered a new one to:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009007.jpg

the new frame being roughed out

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009010.jpg

Meanwhile, this is a little block set up that I made up to support an adjustable boom tent-crutch-light holder thingy using a bit of aluminium tube and a fitting from the camping store that allows me to adjust the height of the crutch while providing a handy little light hook.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009005.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009004.jpg


the peg on the block locates and holds the boom tent crutch in place, the ally' pipe slides over the transom bracket, onto the peg and a pin adds a bit of strength if needed (but it seems pretty sturdy without it)

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009.jpg

[Larks]

a couple more, the boom tent crutch and light hook

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009002.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/Larks_01/10112009001.jpg

[Duncan Gibbs]

Mate, it's all brilliant: I love all the little touches you're giving her. She's going to be a real little raid beauty. You'll be cruising in total style, luxury even. Top notch, Greg!

[Chip-skiff]

Since I sold my Hartley, dear little tub, I've been suffering. Not sure if this makes it better or worse. But the boat is a beaut and your work is an inspiration.

What's the beer limit aboard? One slab per day per man?

[Larks]

One slab per day per man?

Mate, you speak Australian :eek:, only we don't need no lousy limits here;).

And you should know that the only way to fix the suffering is to get another one!!! :D

[WX]

Makes tacking a bit laborious, moving all the beer to the windward side.

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018525/378254862.jpg

Great work mate, but please cut those bolts off & fit dome nuts.

[Randall Dedrickson]

good lookin boat. I've been working on one myself. I started mine six years ago and working on it when time and money allow. I decided that I would put two ice box storage compartments. I have storage at the rear part of the cockpit seats and just forward of that a lidded compartment on both sides that will be insulated and sealed for cold storage. Compartment forward of that will be accessable from cabin. Someday I will post pictures.Its good to see what others are doing .

[Candyfloss]

good lookin boat. I've been working on one myself. I started mine six years ago and working on it when time and money allow. I decided that I would put two ice box storage compartments. I have storage at the rear part of the cockpit seats and just forward of that a lidded compartment on both sides that will be insulated and sealed for cold storage. Compartment forward of that will be accessable from cabin. Someday I will post pictures.Its good to see what others are doing .

Waddaya mean someday? Now's good.

[Chip-skiff]

Makes tacking a bit laborious, moving all the beer to the windward side.

It's a beer-shagger (like a sandbagger, with an Australian twist).