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Gavia Immer
11-25-2008, 01:59 PM
Has anyone built, seen, or better yet, sailed the 22' Racing Sloop in Chapelle's Boatbuilding book? I'm looking for a boat to build and find myself drawn back to this one again and again. If not, any suggestions for something similar? Something in the 15'-18' range would actually be a bit more realistic for my building space. Thanks in advance.

johnw
11-25-2008, 02:41 PM
I like the lines of this one, but I don't like the reversed sheer or the way the rudder is fixed, complicating trailering the boat. You might consider a Jollyboat.

http://www.uffafox.com/jollybt.htm

Peerie Maa
11-25-2008, 03:08 PM
I like the lines of this one, but I don't like the reversed sheer or the way the rudder is fixed, complicating trailering the boat. You might consider a Jollyboat.

http://www.uffafox.com/jollybt.htm

There is a way to modernise the design to solve that problem. Adapt the rudder design from the Drascombe Lugger, by fitting a dagger board type case in way of the rudder, and inserting the rudder, its stock and bearings in a cassette. You could still use the under deck tiller by shaping a cut out on the top front of the cassette.

johnw
11-25-2008, 04:31 PM
I'd straighten out the sheer, too, and give it a double hull instead of all that deck. And I still think you'd get a faster, better looking boat by building a Jollyboat. This fellow is building one: http://steveboat.blogspot.com/2008/03/jollyboat-website.html

Where would you be sailing it, by the way?

Gavia Immer
11-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Well, all good thoughts to consider. Ultimately I'll make my way to a Haven 12-1/2. In the meantime, something along the lines of the sloop or Jollyboat. Any other recommended designs?
OK, the part regarding where I'll be sailing. I'm a Maine native exiled in Las Vegas! Lake Mead is the nearest body of water. Additionally, my brother has a house in Pacific Beach (San Diego) so I can head down there, too.

frank pedersen
11-25-2008, 09:09 PM
I owned a Jollyboat back in the early 1960's. It was great fun. I sold it to race in a more active class, the Int. 14, in Annapolis, Md. Experienced sailers said it was faster off the wind than a Flying Dutchman. You will need a buoyancy bag up in the bow, a pair of self-bailers, and large transom drain flaps to sail the boat dry after an occasional capsize. One of the more memorable events was when I was planning at about 12 - 14 knots with my crew out on the trapeze. The spray was coming aft to the point of limiting visibility, and, of course, the crew was drenched. Unexpectedly, my crew came inboard. I said, "why did you come in?" He said, "I thought we had capsized."

johnw
11-25-2008, 11:12 PM
One of the early sailing speed records was set by this boat in the 1950s. It was several years before the catamarans got faster.

I believe it was 17 knots for the flying kilometer.

ahp
11-26-2008, 10:41 AM
The Jolly Boat looks like a slightly larger O'Day DaySailor. I have an old one made out of that other stuff. It is one very good boat, fast and stable.

johnw
11-26-2008, 01:26 PM
Both were designed by Uffa Fox. The Jollyboat would be faster and less tame.

Gavia Immer
11-27-2008, 07:51 PM
Safe to assume that nobody out there has ever built, sailed or seen one of these..?

johnw
11-28-2008, 12:43 AM
Safe to assume that nobody out there has ever built, sailed or seen one of these..?

The chapeplle 22 or the Jollyboat? We've already hear from a jollyboat sailor. Chapelle 22s are a little thin on the ground.