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My mind is failing me. What is the metal ring at the end of the bowsprit to which we shackle our stays, shrouds and bobstay?
Second question; How do you all attach photos which you have obviously taken yourself to a message in this forum?
The thingamagiger is called an eyeband. I'm too stoopid to post pics but I'm sure someone will cut and paste the instructions for you.
John B
12-13-2003, 06:26 PM
Cranse Iron. You'll usually have a cranse iron and gammon band as part of your bowsprit hardware.
You go to imagestation. there's a thread on it .someone will have a link to it (to tell you the ins and outs.)
NormMessinger
12-13-2003, 07:22 PM
Instructions for posting pictures
Photo to be posted must be on the web and in a site that allows cross posting. Many Forum users use www.imagestation.com (http://www.imagestation.com) . This is a free site which seems to have unlimited storage, large picture size, and unlimited albums.
Upload your pictures to ImageStation and create your albums or leave the pics in the in box as you wish.
Pictures in ImageStation are displayed in three sizes: thumbnail, display and original. Left click on the thumbnail brings up the display photo, about 640 bits X 400 or so. A left click on the display photo brings up the photo in the original size you uploaded. Forget this one, except in rare cases which I cannot explain it cannot be cross linked. So....
Left click on the thumbnail to show the display version.
Right click on this picture.
Left click "Properties".
Highlight the Address [URL] and copy it (Ctrl/C).
Now go to The Forum and prepare your new message.
Write what you want as a preamble to your picture, then:
Below the message area is a button, "IMAGE". Left click it.
Paste the URL you copied above into the block displayed.
Note that the block contains http already highlighted. Just paste without doing any thing else so you don't get http twice.
Add what ever additional text you wish to add after the URL of the picture is displayed.
Click on the "Preview Post" button to confirm that what you want us to see will appear, then close the window.
Click the "Add Reply" button and standby for responses.
NormMessinger
12-13-2003, 07:27 PM
The thing they call an eyeband in Canada is known as a cranse iron in Nebraska as well as New Zealand, as John said, and, best I can tell, in most of the rest of the civilized world. Martin probably misspronounces it and Eric neither spells nor pronounces it right but that's what they mean.
Thanks for the input on the piece. A cranziron is attached to the stem and was made of iron. It was to extend the stay beyond the bow. Sometimes it was used in conjunction with a bowsprit on cutter rigs.
Cranziron is not the term for the ring on the end of the bowsprit.
On the subject of photos, that sounds complicated. Some forums (are you listening WB?) have a 'browse' button on the page I am typing this on now. That makes posting photos easy.
John B
12-13-2003, 08:08 PM
You can copy and paste the display photo code!!!!!.
DANG. does that mean you can forget the elimination of the " .orig.jpeg" ?( how many hours have I spent waiting for the big photo to load up so I can get the code I hear myself muttering to self) :rolleyes:
John B
12-13-2003, 08:13 PM
reaching for google is easier than reaching for any number of books which will confirm the name of the thing that I've dealt with on my own boat and discussed with countless numbers of people over the years . there's always the regional difference thing though I suppose.....
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... Cranse iron (1800kg) if through bolted 1 x 10mm or 2 x 8mm stainless
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... The fitting at the end of the bow sprit to which they and the head stay
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[ 12-13-2003, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: John B ]
NormMessinger
12-13-2003, 10:33 PM
Oops. Do I have cranse iron and gammon iron mixed up? There ain't many of either on a threshing machine.
You need not worry about .orig.jpg John if you follow my directions. One left click too many and you will. Donn hasn't corrected me the last couple of times I've posted these so I might have achieved precision.
And it ain't nearly as complicated as building a boat. tongue.gif
thebob
12-13-2003, 11:19 PM
You need not worry about .orig.jpg John if you follow my directions. One left click too many and you will. Donn hasn't corrected me the last couple of times I've posted these so I might have achieved precision.
Left click, I've only got one button!
Thanks again.
Perhaps it is a cranse iron. My definition was from a photo of TEWK taken in 1934 and described to me by the gentleman who was her master then. Perhaps the ringed fitting out at the end of the bowsprit is also called the same thing. I'll go with it.
Originally posted by NormMessinger:
The thing they call an eyeband in Canada is known as a cranse iron in Nebraska as well as New Zealand, as John said, and, best I can tell, in most of the rest of the civilized world. Martin probably misspronounces it and Eric neither spells nor pronounces it right but that's what they mean.Glen-L calls it an eyeband on my boat. Concerning the bowsprit the building instructions says "The forward portion (of the bowsprit) is circular in section and may taper somewhat to suit the diameter of the eyeband fitting used at the end...The eyeband fitting secures the terminal ends of the bobstay, bowsprit shrouds, and forestay"
NormMessinger
12-15-2003, 04:07 PM
Why don't we just call it a dohickiebobstay?
Originally posted by NormMessinger:
Why don't we just call it a dohickiebobstay?:D Norm, I like it! Easier to spell than krantz eyern, too.
Just opened a Christmas present early, Mystic Seaports Origin of Sea Terms by John Rogers. Cranse-Iron: The fitting on a sailing vessel's bowsprit for the jibboom; also later one type of a hinge fitting for a yard on its mast...from the Dutch 'kranz'
jwaldin
12-19-2003, 09:22 PM
Hi Jim,
Turner Valley eh.
Is that where all the 'gas' was found?
I'm not implying that people from TV are full of it though. My sister has a house in Black Diamond and she tells me the 'gas' from you folks spreads right over to her place.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Jim.
Originally posted by jwaldin:
Hi Jim,
Turner Valley eh.
Is that where all the 'gas' was found?
I'm not implying that people from TV are full of it though. My sister has a house in Black Diamond and she tells me the 'gas' from you folks spreads right over to her place.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Jim.:D Yup, TV is the home of the Alberta oil patch (or as you correctly say, gas). We grocery shop in Black Diamond because TV doesn't have its own food store. Its as stereotypical small town Alberta as you can get - still see horses on Main Street from time to time (and they're not riot cops, either :D ) I'm doing my darnedest to convince swmbo to move to the coast but she's not quite ready. She's a flatlander from Saskatchewan and will miss the wheat. Best to you and yours, too:)
Bayboat
12-20-2003, 11:53 PM
It's Doohickey.
Andrew Craig-Bennett
12-21-2003, 06:11 AM
Ring at stem through which bowsprit projects = gammon iron, because it is an iron replacement for the rope gammoning that was originallt fitted there.
Eye band at outboard end of bowsprit to which bobstay, shrouds and topmast forestay (if fitted) are attached = cranse iron, in my book.
Ring that slides along bowsprit, to which tack of jib is secured, = traveller
Iron spike, projecting a few inches outboard, to which the forestay is secured on some boats, such as Itchen Ferry cutters, = bumkin ("boomkin")
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