B0bber
12-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Hi Everyone, I'm new to this site! Since this is a request for boat plan info as well as refit assistance, I have double posted this into both Design/Plan and Build/Repair forums. Sorry for being redundant...
I'm hoping that some of you may be able to provide a little insight into a project I've finally taken on.
Before I was born, my folks moved into a house that had this hull in the garage rafters (even then the canvas was in a major state of disrepair).
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_...-%20lowres.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0555%20-%20lowres.jpg) border=0>
I have recently researched it to the point of finding out that it is a Dedham Kayaks design/kit. Its is 11' OAL, 3' Beam (Here is an ad - circa 1952):
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/Dedh...ayak%20ad.jpeg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/Dedham%20Kayak%201952Kayak%20ad.jpeg)>
Does anyone know more - or have any info about this company or these kits?
I still have both oars, but one is split/de-lam'ed pretty badly. (More pix to follow)...
As a youngster, a friend and I stripped all of the old canvas off with plans of recovering the boat - but never got that far. The hull has sat in its current state (again hanging in my father's garage) for over 35 years, just waiting for someone to do something with it. My dad had often considered using it for wildlife photography and fishing... but didn't have any idea how to get started.
After some discussions this past year, I've recently renewed our interest in wetting this hull. I've (we've) thought about skinning it with 6mm plywood (stitch & glue fashion). I'd even considered stripping it with WRC. We have finally decided after much contemplation, that we will keep it a SOF hull and re-cover it with Nylon (Cordura).
Here is where I need your ideas & knowledge:
Do we use 1050D or 1680D Nylon? This hull will be in the shallows and around twigs/rocks a lot. This was one of the reasons why we considered a S&G instead of SOF refit. Has anyone used 1680D Nylon? Tom Yost discusses shrinking nylon with an iron, will a "finished" nylon (see: http://www.ahh.biz/fabric_catagories/heavy_fabrics.htm (http://www.ahh.biz/fabric_catagories/heavy_fabrics.htm)) shrink or will only raw/unfinished nylon (not pre-urethaned) shrink?
None of the books I have and websites I've searched talk too extensively about the joint where the deck cloth and the hull cloth meet. Any wood trim would need to be screwed in place - I don't want the screws to show and plugs over the heads would require a deeper cross-section trim which might look too big on a small hull like this.
What would be the cleanest way to finish this deck/hull joint? I don't know if an automotive molding would stick to the cloth (even after polyurethaning the cloth), but this would otherwise be something that we would like, providing "rub rail" protection while hiding the deck cloth edge (& staples).
We also may want to do something with the stem and something on the transom corners too as these will be areas that will also look unfinished...
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_...0low%20res.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0549%20-%20low%20res.jpg) border=0>
This appears to have a sail mast provision... it might be neat to resurrect that feature as well. Any thoughts on a sail type, mast length, etc?
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0553.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0553.jpg) border=0>
Thanks in advance for all your help! Once I finalize the preparations I'll start a thread on our progress (in Build and Repair).
Bob
I'm hoping that some of you may be able to provide a little insight into a project I've finally taken on.
Before I was born, my folks moved into a house that had this hull in the garage rafters (even then the canvas was in a major state of disrepair).
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_...-%20lowres.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0555%20-%20lowres.jpg) border=0>
I have recently researched it to the point of finding out that it is a Dedham Kayaks design/kit. Its is 11' OAL, 3' Beam (Here is an ad - circa 1952):
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/Dedh...ayak%20ad.jpeg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/Dedham%20Kayak%201952Kayak%20ad.jpeg)>
Does anyone know more - or have any info about this company or these kits?
I still have both oars, but one is split/de-lam'ed pretty badly. (More pix to follow)...
As a youngster, a friend and I stripped all of the old canvas off with plans of recovering the boat - but never got that far. The hull has sat in its current state (again hanging in my father's garage) for over 35 years, just waiting for someone to do something with it. My dad had often considered using it for wildlife photography and fishing... but didn't have any idea how to get started.
After some discussions this past year, I've recently renewed our interest in wetting this hull. I've (we've) thought about skinning it with 6mm plywood (stitch & glue fashion). I'd even considered stripping it with WRC. We have finally decided after much contemplation, that we will keep it a SOF hull and re-cover it with Nylon (Cordura).
Here is where I need your ideas & knowledge:
Do we use 1050D or 1680D Nylon? This hull will be in the shallows and around twigs/rocks a lot. This was one of the reasons why we considered a S&G instead of SOF refit. Has anyone used 1680D Nylon? Tom Yost discusses shrinking nylon with an iron, will a "finished" nylon (see: http://www.ahh.biz/fabric_catagories/heavy_fabrics.htm (http://www.ahh.biz/fabric_catagories/heavy_fabrics.htm)) shrink or will only raw/unfinished nylon (not pre-urethaned) shrink?
None of the books I have and websites I've searched talk too extensively about the joint where the deck cloth and the hull cloth meet. Any wood trim would need to be screwed in place - I don't want the screws to show and plugs over the heads would require a deeper cross-section trim which might look too big on a small hull like this.
What would be the cleanest way to finish this deck/hull joint? I don't know if an automotive molding would stick to the cloth (even after polyurethaning the cloth), but this would otherwise be something that we would like, providing "rub rail" protection while hiding the deck cloth edge (& staples).
We also may want to do something with the stem and something on the transom corners too as these will be areas that will also look unfinished...
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_...0low%20res.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0549%20-%20low%20res.jpg) border=0>
This appears to have a sail mast provision... it might be neat to resurrect that feature as well. Any thoughts on a sail type, mast length, etc?
<img src=http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0553.jpg (http://b0bber.fileave.com/Kayak/IMG_0553.jpg) border=0>
Thanks in advance for all your help! Once I finalize the preparations I'll start a thread on our progress (in Build and Repair).
Bob