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OEX
12-18-2008, 10:31 AM
I have a buddy wanting a faering of some kind. So if anyone wants to sell their Norwegian rowing boat, faering, bindals, oselver, etc, etc. New old, built in US or not........or if you know of one not being used.....Please let me know

cheers, Bruce

TerryLL
12-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Check with James McMullen on this forum. He has an Oughtred Fulmar on the Caledonia Yawl Forum for sale.

http://www.mavc2002.com/cyforum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=746


(I have no interest in this sale.)

OEX
12-18-2008, 05:35 PM
he is looking for a true faering. I.e keel bottom, not ply, etc. Bindal, Hardanger, Afjord, Sognabat, Oselver.....

Thanks very much though!

Cheers

Steve Paskey
12-18-2008, 07:30 PM
The only "true" faering I recall seeing for sale in the U.S. was an oselver listed on eBay four or five years ago. Your friend might build his own faster than he could find one.

Thorne
12-18-2008, 07:45 PM
Or purchase it overseas and have it shipped here...

Peerie Maa
12-18-2008, 07:49 PM
I have a buddy wanting a faering of some kind. So if anyone wants to sell their Norwegian rowing boat, faering, bindals, oselver, etc, etc. New old, built in US or not........or if you know of one not being used.....Please let me know

cheers, Bruce

If he can import try:http://www.oselvarverkstaden.no/
or: http://www.eldjarnbaat.no/
or here: http://home.online.no/~joeolavl/viking/baatbyggerier.htm#Jakob%20S.%20Bj%C3%B8rkedal

StevenBauer
12-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Don't you have a couple of extras, Bruce? ;)

He should just commission one. I'm sure there are some builders looking for projects right now.


Steven

Ben Fuller
12-18-2008, 09:10 PM
I am checking with my contacts to see if maybe one of the Apprentice shop faerings ended up at South Street.

Chip Stulen who is now I think up in Vermont taking care of the steamboat Ticonderoga at Shelburne used to build these commercially.

Possible that the Apprenticeshop in Rockland has some resources in this area.

OEX
12-19-2008, 08:39 AM
The only "true" faering I recall seeing for sale in the U.S. was an oselver listed on eBay four or five years ago. Your friend might build his own faster than he could find one.


Yup, i saw the Os, too, and bought it :)

Mrleft8
12-19-2008, 08:43 AM
Bruce, check your PMs

OEX
12-19-2008, 09:05 AM
Don't you have a couple of extras, Bruce? ;)

He should just commission one. I'm sure there are some builders looking for projects right now.


Steven

Yes Steve I have a few---Bindal, Os, Rangaland, and my Fusion Fearign (Raider 18). This is what got him psyched about them. I am suggesting he build a Elf like yours (especially since my name is Elfstrom :D, ...we shall see).

Ben, love to hear about the South Street one. I know the Apprenticeshop ones are around. One is in Maine (I think Ben you know the owner of the Sognabat yes?) and one is in Darien CT. That one Wade Smith did a new rudder for, but I am not sure how to contact him....Wade said last time we spoke that he lost the contact info. Fellow was a doctor I thought. I wonder if this is the same one, or if its an original Faering he has?

A few Wooden Boat Mags ago someone was selling a 21' Bindal/Nordlands, but they wanted too much ($12000) as I remember.

I found an Os or a Hardanger at the Canton NY boat auction listed as a "Norwegian Life Boat from a whaling ship". It was bought for less than $200 and is in very tough shape to say the least. Owner collects boats and does not want to sell it.

There is an Os in Jamestown RI, but the stern was cut to a transom to mount an outboard. The fellow needs to do a lot of work on her after she came aground in a storm a couple of years ago...it is a possible, but he is reluctant to part with her. New stern stem and scarfing some (read all) planks, etc.......?

I know Chip Stulen did a few Faerings so I will track him down---Chip you out there?

Commissioning done in Norway is way too costly. Norway has a very inflated economy. A buddy of mine went out for dinner in Oslo with a business partner...cost them $850...no joke! I was there a bit ago and the average beer cost me $12 at a pub. Then shipping---wow $$$$

I could have Eric Friberg in Bellingham WA build one for him, but the fellow is looking for a true one from Norway or one with some use on it if from the USA.

Somewhere in some attic or some basement there is a lost and lonely faering (land of forgotten toys)..... I did find a Rogaland Faering (actually only one set of oars) in a basement in Sorrento ME.

cheers all

Daniel Noyes
12-19-2008, 10:18 AM
In New England your much more likely to come across a old dory in an attic or barn than a Scandanavian faering, would a traditional built dory or wherry with loads of local history suit your friend?
As I have learned a bit about Faerings (thanks largely to this WB forum) I have been struck by the similarities in the building process to that of a dory, especially the tradition of producing shape by bending the planks with braces from the ceiling...coincidence?
Dan
http://dansdories.googlepages.com

OEX
12-19-2008, 10:46 AM
no he is all about the scandieness. I had him looking at swaps, Oughtreds, etc. no go.

He is into the flex of the hull and build technique and the cultural part, as am I but I also see your point.
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cheers

lagspiller
12-19-2008, 02:29 PM
A few Wooden Boat Mags ago someone was selling a 21' Bindal/Nordlands, but they wanted too much ($12000) as I remember.

Commissioning done in Norway is way too costly. Norway has a very inflated economy. A buddy of mine went out for dinner in Oslo with a business partner...cost them $850...no joke! I was there a bit ago and the average beer cost me $12 at a pub. Then shipping---wow $$$$

Exchange rates mean a lot - the dollar has fluxuated between 8.50kr pr USD to 4.80kr pr USD the past years. That makes a huge difference in costs. Right now the krone is down and the dollar is up. A new Oselver from the Oselververkstaden will cost 8693 USD at todays exchange rate for export - finished but not sea-ready (you'll have to oil it yourself). The guys in Austevoll might be a bit cheaper, but not much.

The biggest problem would be the wait. There is a 2-3 year backlog of boats commissioned.

There is at least one US boatbuilder on this forum who has taken boatbuilding courses over here. He might be an option? I can't recall his name, but he was of nordic descent. Maybe danish?


As far as restaurant prices go - they are more than in the states, but you are going to have to go in for it to find a place where you pay 850 bucks for dinner. An excellent restaurant will typically cost you 50 bucks for a fine dinner if you are satisfied with splitting a bottle of house wine. And I could show you several places in Bergen that will beat the SAS Radison for 35 bucks in quality and style.
12 bucks for a beer is unheard of... the most I ever paid is just under 10 - and THAT was unheard of then.
There are a lot of myths about prices in norway. The truth is that the cheap options are not really there - decent to very good places only - and prices generally a bit over what you are used to for that quality. It is of course more than possible to go to a famous tourist place and pay for the location instead of the food...

rbgarr
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Ben and Bruce,

IIRC the Oselver built by the Apprenticeshop was hanging from the ceiling at South Street Seaport 'food court' many years ago. That eating facility has since closed and I was under the impression the boat is the one now owned by Bruce, which he got off eBay (right?) if it's still at the Seaport that will be very interesting. Let us know.

There was also a Muscongus Bay Sloop the A-Shop built in the same wired-above-the-heads-of-yuppies display position.

It was looking at The Crucifixion but without the blood. A lot of dusty, dried out seams though.

OEX
12-23-2008, 09:26 AM
OK, $850 for food and wine, I am sure they were asking for it, but it even surprised them:) Granted this was a year or so ago.

So builders in Norway.... are there still builders of all the various less common faerings of the smaller areas?

South Street---I did not know my boat had been there as well. I was told it was sold to a couple in Winter Port area ME and then sold to a fishing store near Duck trap. This is the fellow I bought it from via ebay a few years ago. It is also the Faering in the pictures of the SRR ads, articles, etc on the beach..... Boats getting around. If anyone wants to use her next SRR let me know.

Happy Holidays

lagspiller
12-23-2008, 02:13 PM
So builders in Norway.... are there still builders of all the various less common faerings of the smaller areas?

Færings and smaller areas go together like white gloves and 800 dollar bottles of wine.
Yes, I think that if you can find the wine in the bigger places you can also find the færings in the smaller ones.

Steve Paskey
12-23-2008, 03:43 PM
Yup, i saw the Os, too, and bought it :)

Oh, so you're the scoundrel. I still regret not buying that when I had the chance and the money.

OEX
12-23-2008, 06:45 PM
Færings and smaller areas go together like white gloves and 800 dollar bottles of wine.
Yes, I think that if you can find the wine in the bigger places you can also find the færings in the smaller ones.

OK, OK... I get i. My bad on the bad PR for Norway and its economy, but it is expensive and a long shipment away! Just so you know, my family (1/2 of it) is from Vigeland (actually Matts Vigeland was my great uncle -- so you see I must be nuts) and Farsund (nuts too?), so I LOVE Norway. :D Also Oslo does not represent Norway.........

So any hints to builders or have I burned the bridge to Norway with my stereotypical statements :( God Jul...maybe ?:o

cheers, Bruce

OEX
12-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Oh, so you're the scoundrel. I still regret not buying that when I had the chance and the money.

That's me! Sorry, but it was a steal too. No one seemed interested, so I kind did it off ebay for very little. She has had a great life with me so far and has been used by others just to get people to see how great she is.


I want to ship her to Iceland with a few others of the type for soem expedition "stuff" anyone up for it??:eek:

cheers

lagspiller
12-24-2008, 06:14 AM
So any hints to builders or have I burned the bridge to Norway with my stereotypical statements :( God Jul...maybe ?:o

cheers, Bruce
It was just too tempting, Bruce. Hope it gave you a laugh.

I know a 3-4 guys around here in addition to the Oselver workshop. That would be Oselvers. The Hardanger fartøyvernsenter in Norheimsund also builds boats with apprentices. I have no idea of the prices or commissioning times. People from other places would have to answer for their regions. I don't know any place that lists all the boatbuilders in the country. Maybe the Forening Kysten (the coastal association) could help. If you are serious, I could find some links or tlf nr for you.

But it would be less trouble for you to find a guy in the states. A couple of unused synapses fired and I think I remember the US guy that wrote on forum and has studied smallboat building over here is named Jon Etheridge... or something close to that. Maybe you can find him if you are serious about building a boat.

norseman
12-24-2008, 06:58 AM
Whatever they charge it's not enough. I remember one famous US rigger quoting $100/hr for "consulting".

56000 NKR for a 16 feet nordlandsbåt,rigged. Sail about 11000 extra. Order it quick before the dollar takes a nosedive?
http://ulf.no/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=54

God Jul ;-)