Quiet Tune, L. F. Herreshoff

[piobia]

That's my first post, hello to everyone, it's a very nice place this forum.

As many of you, I'm impressed with L.F. Herreshof's "Quiet Tune". It's hard to find more detailed, technical info about her. Are the plans available for anyone, or is it just "one and only"? Is she rather a daysailer or may she be used for 2-3 days passage at open sea (Baltic sea, higher wave possible)? How she acts on rough sea?

[Ian McColgin]

Plans can be had through MIT, I think. Get "Sensible Cruising Designs", L. Francis Herreshoff (International Marine Publishing, Camden, ME, 1973) for a look at this, the heavier but same rig H-28, the enlarged Araminta, and the other cruisers LFH did in variations around this length but with diverse mixes of sail area and displacement.

Quiet Tune is a nice daysailor/weekender that can take a snorter but also does nicely in the calmer conditions also frequent both Down East, for which she was designed, or the Baltic. However, depending on your cruising and sailing notions, you might want the smaller cockpit larger accomodation of some of her cousins.

G'luck

[Peter Belenky]

Plans can be ordered from the L. Francis Herreshoff Collection at Mystic Seaport, here:

http://library.mysticseaport.org/manuscripts/coll/spcoll038.cfm

[Rob Hazard]

If you are thinking of building a Quiet Tune, you owe it to yourself to try sailing the original. She is one of several boats used in the Ketch Course at Woodenboat School. She was beautifully restored by Wayne Ettel and belongs to Mystic Seaport.

[Jay Greer]

I had "Quiet Tune" moored at my digs for some four years while Dan Carter owned her. The boat went through a massive rebuild during that time. How does it sail? She sails like a dream!
I have always wondered why no one else has built one. One small problem is that the boat uses the H28 rig which leaves her a bit underpowered in light airs just as the H28 is. The main needs to go up another four feet.
Jay

[rbgarr]

The last boat built by Paul Luke (1985) was Papoose, a Quiet Tune: http://www.peluke.com/

[piobia]

Thank you for replies. At the moment I'm finishing renovation of my 18-footer (nice plywood design from 1970), so I won't definitely start a new project. I just keep an eye on few designs (Malabar Jr, Eric Jr., Quiet Tune), who knows, maybe in few years time... :-). It's easy to find detiled information about most of these boats, Quiet Tune was harder to find.
My next boat should be: 25-30 ft, sutable for 3-4 days Baltic passages (but mainly used as a weekender), classic shapes, no need of full headroom. Any more suggestions?

[Jay Greer]

The last boat built by Paul Luke (1985) was Papoose, a Quiet Tune: http://www.peluke.com/
Very interesting! This is one that slipped by me. In addition, I can find no photos of the boat or any other information for that matter.
Jay

[Ben Fuller]

She was designed as a limited overnight boat for the Maine Coast. H-28 rig works especially with an added overlapping jib for light air. Not the worlds most comfortable boat. Sitting head room in the cabin and a shallow selfbailing cockpit in which you sit on the bottom or outboard of the low coaming. All of LFH's stuff including plans and correspondence is at Mystic. Boatwright there Barry Thomas owned her for a while. I skipped QT for a couple of weeklong classes at WBS. We had one jib and jigger day. Baltic probably fine; I'd not be so sure about the North Sea.

[JimConlin]

In Marion, there's a Quiet Tune which I understand is by Paul Luke and of aluminum. A very pretty thing. It's named Misty III. I thought it was older than 1981.
Did Luke continue with aluminum that late?

[rbgarr]

Thanks, Jim. I've always wondered where she's been off to since she was launched. I saw her on sea trials after but don't recall exactly when. The build date from the list on his website confirms 1985. It was sad to see Luke's kind of peter out as far as building new was concerned.

Do you know if Misty's kept in one of the yards local to Marion? Burr Brothers perhaps?

Ben,

Have you sailed an Araminta? Is she any more comfortable in the cockpit than QT?
http://i39.tinypic.com/14cbnef.jpg

[johnw]

Thank you for replies. At the moment I'm finishing renovation of my 18-footer (nice plywood design from 1970), so I won't definitely start a new project. I just keep an eye on few designs (Malabar Jr, Eric Jr., Quiet Tune), who knows, maybe in few years time... :-). It's easy to find detiled information about most of these boats, Quiet Tune was harder to find.
My next boat should be: 25-30 ft, sutable for 3-4 days Baltic passages (but mainly used as a weekender), classic shapes, no need of full headroom. Any more suggestions?


Pleasure. Nat's last boat.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1192/4100296/8540707/115578093.jpg

[RodB]

Pleasure is a 30 foot version of Alerion.... my top choice ...


RodB

[johnw]

Nat later modified it for a yawl rig. In Florida, he used to put down the centerboard in shallow water to anchor the boat, leave the mizzen up to keep it headed into the wind, and act as committee boat for a fleet of H-14 dinghys.

[piobia]

Are pictures of Pleasure available in Internet? My google search did not help me to much.

[Jay Greer]

"Araminta" is my favorite pocket rocket! Here are two under construction. The shallow cockpit of the origional has been revised and made deeper which was my one objection to "Quiet Tune".
Jay
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8cc00b3127ccec5bf1d0c385e00000040O00QYsmrNy5bsQ e3nwg/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

[johnw]

Here are some. RodB, a forumite, posted them on this thread:

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14201

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/PLEASURE-MOORING-STERN-LORE.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/PLEASURE-PORT-DRY-MAST-72.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/PLEASURE-COMBING-72-2.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/Prestoboat/Misc%20boats%20etc/Pleasureontrailer-profile-72.jpg

[sismcq]

I'm building the herreshoff pram (10') there will be lots of rivets. any helpful hints
thanks , Sis

[Russ Manheimer]

http://static.flickr.com/62/230434055_b069f63447.jpg

Quiet Tune and a Doug Hylan modified Rozinante on Eggomogin Reach.

I think I'd rather have a comfortable, open cockpit and be respectful of that vunerablilty.

Where are our Medici's? Who's up for a new QT Syndicate?

Russ

[adam96]

Pleasure is a 30 foot version of Alerion.... my top choice ...


RodB

PLEASURE and ALERION (III) were built from separate models. PLEASURE, even with longer length, is actually shallower than ALERION III. This, I guess, was due to draft restrictions in Biscayne Bay.

[johnw]

Similar shape though, and I think Alerion had more salient keel.

[davidagage]

Didn't Scot have a real nice QT video on the front page for awhile?

[Keith Wilson]

I sailed on her out of Brooklin for a week at the WB school. Lots of fun, for sure, although the prospect of putting a literal museum piece on a rock ledge made us very careful. She sails very well indeed in the weather we had, all pretty moderate (I was used to San Francisco Bay at the time). The rig is very easily adjustable for almost any reasonable conditions, and does will in light air with the larger jib. My knees absolutely hated that damned shallow cockpit. It would have been OK 20 - well, 25 years ago, but not now. I think you could make one with a footwell that was still self-bailing. Room below is decent if you don't mind the low headroom. She'd be fine for a couple of days off shore, or more if you're young and flexible.

The only real disadvantage besides the cockpit is that you can't get a good look at her while you're sailing. She's the sort of boat that really should get some kind of public subsidy for improving the scenery wherever she goes.

[Ben Fuller]

I figured out a cockpit solution: You take a boat cushion and put it on the deck outside of the coaming. Sit on it and the coaming is under your knees with nothing in pain.

If I had the boat I'd make up a couple of seats that worked like one iteration of canoe sailing seats. An removable angle seat that runs from the coaming top to just inside of the toe rail. Either bears on a couple of cleats on the outside of the coaming or made to hook over it.

[Jay Greer]

For coastal sailing and gunkholing, I really don't mind an open cockpit as with the Rosinante. It certainly gives plenty of foot room. I also like to have an Edson Pump handy near the helm; one hand for the ship and the other on the pump.
Jay