Sensible Cruising Designs/Common Sense of Yacht Design

[RT MAN]

Who has both of these books, Are the very similar or completely different.

I'm trying to decide if it worth own Common Sense of Yacht Design I already have the much cheaper Sensible Cruising Designs

Rufus

[JimConlin]

They're entirely different books, and both worth having. A perfectly useful reprint of 'Common Sense' is available for about $45 from David Goodchild/ The Toad Halll Press
http://www.dngoodchild.com/0312.htm

[michigangeorge]

Two compleatly different books. The Common Sense book is much more in depth and has vastly different designs and lots of details. E-mail me for a fortunate deal.

[Lance F. Gunderson]

If you are a fan of LFH then you must have both. I find myself refering to them both often, and in fact did so just a few minutes ago. Among the best investments I ever made. Highly recommended.

[rbgarr]

The Compleat Cruiser is another keeper. It's particularly dear to my heart since I grew up at the 'scene of the crime' sailing cat boats and Nantucket, Vineyard and Block Island Sounds. I feel the warm sea breeze, smell the sand and eel grass and squint at diamonds on the water when I read it. It makes me hungry.

I wish someone would write an article or a book based on NGH family logbooks/journals/diaries of their cruises and daytrips. I bet we'd learn alot about LFH and how his father taught and influenced him from an early age. I'd love to know details of how NGH (and his brother) navigated, maneuvered, cared for their boats and what family traditions afloat they cherished.

[RT MAN]

The Compleat Cruiser is another keeper. It's particularly dear to my heart since I grew up at the 'scene of the crime' sailing cat boats and Nantucket, Vineyard and Block Island Sounds. I feel the warm sea breeze, smell the sand and eel grass and squint at diamonds on the water when I read it. It makes me hungry.

I wish someone would write an article or a book based on NGH family logbooks/journals/diaries of their cruises and daytrips. I bet we'd learn alot about LFH and how his father taught and influenced him from an early age. I'd love to know details of how NGH (and his brother) navigated, maneuvered, cared for their boats and what family traditions afloat they cherished.

Well said it is very interesting to me I don't know what really makes me so interested but i do get a sense of satisfaction when I learn something new about NGH especially.

It must have something to do with my childhood I was about 12 while sailing around Kingston on Lake Ontario I have this vivid voice in my mind of my father saying Herreshof now that the boat to have. My Dad had several boat over the years which we used as holiday cruiser sailing on Lake Ontario and sometime camping on the Islands.

[goodbasil]

I have both. One is larger than the other.

[Bob Cleek]

The Compleat Cruiser is another keeper. It's particularly dear to my heart since I grew up at the 'scene of the crime' sailing cat boats and Nantucket, Vineyard and Block Island Sounds. I feel the warm sea breeze, smell the sand and eel grass and squint at diamonds on the water when I read it. It makes me hungry.

I wish someone would write an article or a book based on NGH family logbooks/journals/diaries of their cruises and daytrips. I bet we'd learn alot about LFH and how his father taught and influenced him from an early age. I'd love to know details of how NGH (and his brother) navigated, maneuvered, cared for their boats and what family traditions afloat they cherished.


I would say LFH's "Captain Nat Herreshoff - The Wizard of Bristol" comes very close to the book you are wishing for.

[rbgarr]

I would say LFH's "Captain Nat Herreshoff - The Wizard of Bristol" comes very close to the book you are wishing for.

I read it decades ago and recall vaguely thinking it was 'a mile wide and an inch deep', but I'll try again. Thanks.

[Jay Greer]

Amongst Herreshoff enthusiasts, "The Common Sense of Yacht Design" is often refered to as, "The Sacred Writings".
Jay

[gimmellsmom]

Who has both of these books, Are the very similar or completely different.

I'm trying to decide if it worth own Common Sense of Yacht Design I already have the much cheaper Sensible Cruising Designs

Rufus

Try the library, our local one had both. Then you can look before you invest - in my case, I'm the only one who's taken in out in a long time, so I just keep renewing.

Herreshoff's crusing on Lake Ontario, there's not many of us anymore I'd think. Our H28 garners a LOT of attention. Sometimes not good for a paranoid new sailor like me; why do these boats keep coming in so close - to see my lovely gal of course.

110 days to launch!

:)

[David Conard]

Sensible Cruising Designs is essentially a collection of plans with some descriptions by LFH (at least some from articles in The Rudder. Common Sense of Yacht Design is a lengthy discussion of design principles. There is a collection of NGH diaries and logbooks. It is called Recollections. It is available from the Herreshoff Museum (you can get it online from the museum via Jamestown Distributors).

[rbgarr]

Yes, Recollections is a good one also. NGH in his own words.

[JimConlin]

Amongst Herreshoff enthusiasts, "The Common Sense of Yacht Design" is often refered to as, "The Sacred Writings".
Jay
And that's what some others call the Gougeon book. ;)

[rbgarr]

In other words, the Old Testament and the New Testament?

[JimConlin]

In other words, the Old Testament and the New Testament?

Perfect! The gospels according to Meade, Jan and Joel?

[rbgarr]

The parallels are eerie, aren't they?

[JimConlin]

His has potential . Let's see...

From the book of Francis ("The Sacred Writings") (Goodchild Edition) , Chapter 1, verse 3:
The action of a shape, model or vessel as it passes through the water is very interesting to some of us. In this first chapter we will contemplate in a casual way..."

From the Gospel according to Meade (5th Edition), Chapter 14, verse 3:
"Hardware bonding is a method of securing fittings and fasteners to wood in a way that greatly increases the wood's ability to carry high point loads."

[Winsome]

Not a book, but another good read are the letters (1920's) between NGH and LFH. They are mostly on line through Mystic.

[Jay Greer]

And that's what some others call the Gougeon book. ;)
We call it; "The sticky kid's book".
Jay

[Sailor]

I have both (Finally) It's worth having both for sure. Some interesting theories in Common sense. Take them or leave them but I lover flipping through both from time to time an donce every few years I'll read them cover to cover. Good stuff those books.

[John Meachen]

I have both as I am an admirer of the boats LFH designed.They each have admirable qualities and are worth reading.Sensible Cruising Designs is more of a catalogue of some good looking or individual boats and the Common Sense gives several pointers to the reasons they left the drawing board looking as they did.

[dredbob]

I'm a big fan of LFH's writing also. My holy book is _The Compleat Cruiser_, and I try to make a habit of reading a bit out of it every couple days or so.

There are also two collections of LFH's writings from the Rudder, that are essentially the same, but with maybe one or two minor differences. The earlier one is called (I think) _The Writings of L. Francis Herreshoff_ and the later one is _An L Francis Herreshoff Reader_.

And there is a book called _Yachts_ that is mostly by Boris Lauer-Leonardi but with some stuff by LFH at the end. Lauer-Leonardi was LFH's editor at the Rudder that LFH is always referring to in his articles.

Bob