Classic Moth class and Y-Flyer

[rac2]

We're building both an 11' "Little May Too" Classic Moth (not International Moth) close by the Moth's birthplace along the coat of NC. Looking for any advice, pictures, etc from anyone with experience of this classy little boat.

Also under construction is a Y-Flyer, okoume on cedar. Likewise, seeking any helpful commentary or information on the construction of this boat.

Thanks!

[WWheeler]

I have one in my collection. Heck of a rocket. At 18' and lots of sail, it needs at least 2-3 people to balance it in a good wind. Otherwise, it's a good cottage boat.

for information on the Y-flyer, see http://www.yflyer.org/

http://www.yflyer.org/Discover%20the%20Y/images/Ellyn_again_2_2_small.gif

[ 04-19-2005, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: WWheeler ]

[Wild Wassa]

Rac2, I rebuilt a Moth (Bogong II) she took me about 10 weeks to overhaul and I am currently rebuilding another old wreck (the original Bogong).

These boats go close to being the most simple boats to work around on the planet and a pleasure to restore.

Both of the old Moths are made from Western Red Cedar and Aussie Red Cedar (marine ply), the foils are old Douglas. All nails were copper which I replaced with silicon bronze (when needed) and the screws are now marine stainless. The hardware is bedded in a polymetric marine sealant.

I painted Bogong II in a 2 pack water based polyutethane over epoxy. She was originally painted in an oil based enamel over varnish, which I replaced using the much lighter poly to cut down on weight. A few lighter bits of hardware, replaced heavier gear as well, not that there is much to replace. Bogong II has a concave shape in the hull which runs the length of the boat. I found this difficult to finish well, due to painting and cutting the concave. Bogong's hull is just a bit more rounded in her deck plan and wider than the Moths that I usually see.

A Bogong is a big juicy edible Moth that is found in my neck of the woods. The Bogong is winnowed in coals, so that the wings and legs are burnt off. They taste like oily peanuts.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid165/p387db4f53a369f21976834fc8310dd87/f46890a2.jpg

Wooding Bogong ... while Alice the ship's cat checks for snakes.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid165/pcebee23867595bc34bda5f891772192e/f46890a3.jpg

Bogong II.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid165/p2d770121acd71bce95b4f2579189b9d6/f46890a4.jpg

I fitted the transom which allowed a second gudgeon to be installed. The rudder and box kept falling off this old Sea Scout boat with only one gudgeon on a tiny transom. The anti-skid is a sugar textured poly. I took this shot because I was about to restore the Albert Park YC and burgee ... and wanted a copy. The cockpit is concave, the reflection of the top of a hedge makes the shape look boxy and badly faired, unfortunately.

Warren.

[ 04-22-2005, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[Doug Canada]

May be of interest;

http://www.moth.asn.au/

http://www.mothboat.com/

Doug

[skuthorp]

Warren, once owned a moth, at Albert Park Yacht Club, on the lake! About 1958 till 1964. Amazing! Also sailed Sabots, Mirrors and a whaleboat with the Sea Cadets.

[Wild Wassa]

Skuthorp, I hope you are well. I'm going to meet the chap who built this boat and 'many others' for the APYC, soon. He is coming up to the mountains to visit. The chap built boats for the APYC for well over twenty years, I'm told and I think as a volunteer ... that's awesome.

This Moth now Bogong II (her original name is unknown), had a dark brown deck, bright yellow cockpit and an off white hull (with much car bog under paint). The Scouts prefer blue ... with their white hulls and car bog.

It's just as well that Moths are wet ... with a deck as dark as this 'mid' blue.

Warren.

[ 04-22-2005, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[rac2]

I thank everyone for their responses and the photos. The class Moth we're building is the Classic Moth, which is the traditional NC-style boat from which the International and Aussie classes evolved. They are sailed by about four or five yacht clubs on the US east coast, including clubs in Elizabethton NC and Charleston SC, mainly as a youth boat. Still looking for any info on the "Little May Too" design, plans (of a sort) for which we got from the NC Maritime Museum in Beaufort NC.

[rac2]

Sorry- that should be Elizabeth City NC, not Elizabethton. My apologies to any tarheels offended...

[Nora Lee]

Contact the Museum of the Albemarle, they sell a set of classic moth plans, they used to be $25.00 a set! Route 17 South, Elizabeth City, NC 27909

The Moth Regatta is held in Elizabeth City every Sept., for the benefit of the Museum, which will have it's new facility open in fall of this year! I would imagine it will be a really BIG festival this fall! Fun races to watch!

The 1st Moth was designed and built here in EC by a local fellow and a yacht, Captain Van Sant from Atlantic City, NJ.

I learned to sail on a Moth in Rumson, NJ in the 60's...it was Grandpas ugly boat! Never knew it was a Moth till I moved here!

Regards,

Nora Lee

[rac2]

Wassa:
Just caught your description of the Bogong's flavor. The closest I've come to your part of the world was when my wife and I visited kin on Bali in 2001. We trekked up into the mountains to stay with Balinese friends, who treated us to a barbeque, local-style. For both South Carolinians and Balinese, barbeque means one thing: pig, cooked all day (or night), repeatedly basted with a secret sauce, and served up hot. The only things new to us gringos were (A)the guest of honor (the pig) arrived under his own power, instead of in the back of a pick-up, and (B) the hors d'oevres, which were wasp larvae grilled in their own nest. Just like the Bogong, they tasted a lot like peanuts. Around here, we prefer our peanuts boiled in salt water, and enjoy the crunchy-juicy pop they make when you bite down on them. If you can't get boiled peanuts Down Under, just look around for a wasp's nest full of larvae, fire up the grill, and let me know how they turn out. By the way, I've got LOTS more bug recipes if you like...

[bainbridgeisland]

Nora Lee, I have a vague recollection you were thinking of building a classic moth a few years ago. Did you ever build it?