I like raised deck motor boats [Archive]

Lew Barrett

04-08-2009, 11:19 AM

Those are actually Blanchard "Standard Cruiser." But they do look very much like the Leigh Coolidge designed Lake Union Dreamboats and are pretty much intended to follow that pattern. They are 36 feet long. I think they built (roughly) about 40 of them, and they were frequently built on spec; virtually a small run production model. Many have survived; I can think of half a dozen off hand. They are lightly built but very pretty. I almost prefer their lines to the somewhat larger Lake Unions. These are not heavy water boats, obviously, but pleasant and reasonably commodious coastal cruisers that were well suited to inland passage work and local cruising. Really nice , sail-boaty quarters down below, too. The same can be said for the Dreamboats. A Blanchard Standard cruiser, with linens, dishes and silverware, ground tackle, a shore boat fenders and lines was (if I recall) a $6000 proposition in the thirties, not chump change but when you picked her up, you were ready to go cruising. The description calls them "a raised deck cruiser" which is why I put the photo here.

BETTY-B

04-08-2009, 01:10 PM

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Bridgedeck/BETTY-B/Snow/P1011390.jpg

ron ll

04-08-2009, 01:24 PM

Snowing in PT today Dan?:D

Lew Barrett

04-08-2009, 02:03 PM

I think of Betty B as a bridgedeck cruiser, but any excuse to see her works for me!

BETTY-B

04-08-2009, 02:13 PM

Ya, but since she too has a raised deck, she could kinda get away with it. But ya, bridgedeck cruiser is absoluterly correct. And Bridgedeck was my login name here when I re-joined this forum trying to remember my old name that I never used here. Did that make sense?

Yes Ron. Compared to yesterday, I believe snow is in the air. But my the weather had been nice though. I put probably 15-20 hours on my two boats here in the last five days! Any and all excuses to get on the water have been taken! Okay, maybe more like ten hours if I think about, but still...:)

DAN

ron ll

04-08-2009, 02:28 PM

Okay, not a raised-deck but after finally getting a little paint on her the last couple of days, it's good to remember not that long ago when trying to paint woulda been a bit tricky.

http://www.ronlloyd.com/oddstuff/snoosesnow.JPG

BETTY-B

04-08-2009, 02:41 PM

And another snow pic from that day not long ago. Just cuz it's raised deck day:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Bridgedeck/BETTY-B/Snow/P1011382.jpg

Nicholas Scheuer

04-08-2009, 03:00 PM

A raised deck is the only way to go if one intends to use the forward berths much.

They look more interesting, too, donchathink?

Moby Nick

rufustr

04-08-2009, 04:21 PM

Thanks for those photos of your boats in the snow fellas.

Looks very cool.:cool:

Captain Blight

04-08-2009, 04:21 PM

That black & white photo, the boat in the middle? Looks just a heck of a lot like William Hand's Claire which to me is the very epitome of waterborne grace and style. I'd build one tomorrow if I could.

rbgarr

04-08-2009, 04:35 PM

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/LewBarrett/drmbt-fourboat.jpg

I like the launch, too!

Russ Manheimer

04-08-2009, 08:59 PM

Dave,

Here's a pic from last year's SRR:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3425463846_379e64a188_b.jpg
I think the raised deck design for me recalls a simpler time. Thumb through a copy of MotorBoating from the 20's and 30's and they were pretty common. I grew up with the type in the 50's on the lower Hudson and always thought they looked classy. And then there's all that cabin space. This one adds a whole lot of cockpit to the concept.

Russ

Edited to add: I think that's our own Steven Bauer in the bow of the yawl.

Todd D

04-08-2009, 09:14 PM

I have liked raised deck cruisers since I saw my first one in Seattle back in the 1970. Now nearly 40 years later I am hoping to get mine in the water this summer.

She is 32'9" LOA and was built by Nunes Brothers in Sausalito, CA in 1936.

http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/tortuga/at_home-1s.jpg

C. Ross

04-08-2009, 09:37 PM

Gad, what a string of gorgeous boats. Thanks and more please!

TonyH

04-08-2009, 09:52 PM

There are some lovely raised deckers in Australia, here is a nice example from Tasmania, a 44 footer named NYROCA.

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/0/4/2/6/0_2.jpg

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/0/4/2/6/2_2.jpg

TonyH

04-08-2009, 10:02 PM

I like this 40-footer too - ATRIA (1935). And yes, I do like caanoe sterns!

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/1/5/3/5/0_3.jpg

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/1/5/3/5/1_3.jpg

TonyH

04-08-2009, 10:12 PM

And WHIMBREL, a thirty footer from 1902. I'll stop now...:D

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/4/8/8/7/5/0_3.jpg

TonyH

04-08-2009, 10:18 PM

OK, just one more... AVOCET II, built in 1945.

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/1/1/9/0/9/6_2.jpg

The Bigfella

04-08-2009, 10:21 PM

Its amazing how the likes of Bayliner et al could take such a wonderful concept to such depths, isn't it?

moTthediesel

04-08-2009, 10:43 PM

Then there are the CC Red&Whites, I've always had a soft spot for them too --

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_CFs1CrKUPzE/R4JvEE6U3aI/AAAAAAAAARA/nQS9uUaiWCQ/red+&+white+2.JPG

You PNW guys -- A few years ago a boat showed up in a marina near me in Clayton NY. It was around 36' or so in length, had Seattle on the transom for a home port, and was very much in the classic raised deck Dreamboat style. Thing was though, it was made of steel! Ever see that before?

moT

rbgarr

04-08-2009, 11:01 PM

When Margaret and I were in our twenties we seriously thought about buying a neighbor's 32' steel S&S Crusader, which he was willing to sell us for a song and postcards from our voyage. This is what we drew up together to make it suitable for Bahamas cruising, which was about as far as we thought might get. We didn't follow through with it (dumb kids... head smack).

Before
http://i42.tinypic.com/66m0b8.jpg

After (looks kind of childlike doesn't it? :D)

http://i44.tinypic.com/55icd2.jpg

rufustr

04-09-2009, 12:44 AM

Latura from Hobart.

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/WOODENBOATFESTIVALTRIP2009023.jpg

Silver Spray from Auckland.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3577/3338106747_daa8dcd580.jpg

Robert Meyer

04-09-2009, 07:21 AM

I can't seem to get Weston Farmer's Sundance out of my mind lately. Guess I need to order the plans. http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/wf/sundance/profile.gif

Nicholas Scheuer

04-09-2009, 07:38 AM

Please quit posting Sundance. The hunger/lust pangs are killing me!

What a great little boat! To paraphrase Weston Farmer's own description of her,"unlike the pointy-nosed monstrosities we see today, her plumb bow gives her legs to stand on in a chop.".

Moby Nick

At the time I dscovered Sundance I was sailing a Dovekie, a sailboat that shared Sundance's layout to the extent that berths are in the cockpit, covered by a tent, while the raised deck forward merely provides a palce to keep gear stowed out of the weather, and for a potty.

Moby Nick

rbgarr

04-09-2009, 08:03 AM

Top Hat

http://i43.tinypic.com/2m3qtz7.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/w9z0pc.jpg
Mendlowitz photo

nedL

04-09-2009, 08:22 AM

The Bigfella

04-09-2009, 08:32 AM

Atkins Haven

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Cruisers/images/Haven-1.gif

Lew Barrett

04-09-2009, 10:58 AM

I think these aren't exactly the kind of boats Dave had in mind, but in the more modern idiom, here's the 52 foot Stephens, Madera:

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/LewBarrett/Madera.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/LewBarrett/vp.jpg
Our first Monk, and ain't they all raised decks?

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/LewBarrett/downtown.jpg
By the gross!

Up here I think motorboat pretty much means raised deck, at least in the old cruisers. Those tiny Aussie pocket cruisers must be a local take on the theme. They are awfully cute and well proportioned for such small craft!
I'm not familiar with a LUDDCO copy in steel, though Jim Bacchus did one in glass called Gatsby. I can't seem to find a picture of it.

Nicholas Scheuer

04-09-2009, 12:58 PM

Am certainly enjoying the pics of the Australia boats!

Moby Nick

David G

04-09-2009, 01:26 PM

I'm loving all these nice boats. The raised-deck form brings back childhood memories.

I particularly liked Latura. Whose design is she?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/WOODENBOATFESTIVALTRIP2009023.jpg

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that nice solar-electric launch - Mundoo III, that was featured in WB a few years back.

http://www.storerboatplans.com/Solarboat/solarboat.html

http://www.storerboatplans.com/Solarboat/Mundoo3murraycliffs.jpg

And, of course, there are more OZ versions --

http://www.storerboatplans.com/Venice/Venice.html

http://www.storerboatplans.com/Dayboat/Dayboat_Launch.html

http://www.storerboatplans.com/Dayboat/storer23dayboat.jpg

TonyH

04-10-2009, 05:19 AM

I particularly liked Latura. Whose design is she?

David, the following is from her entry (p52) in "Those That Survive" by Graeme Broxam, an account of historic Tassie boats.

Latura is Aboriginal for "wave". She was built of huon pine at Purdon & Featherstone's slip at Battery Point (in Hobart) in 1926 for one of the owners of the slip (Henry Featherstone) to a design by William Hand. She is 24'6" x 7'2" x 2'6" draft. There is a b&w photo from the Featherstone family album, she looked a little different originally, with a rather smaller canopy/screen over the cockpit.

rufustr

04-10-2009, 05:51 AM

Some close up photos of Latura.

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2118012&posted=1#post2118012

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/WBSHOBART2007322.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/WBSHOBART2007323.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/WBSHOBART2007325.jpg

Robert Meyer

04-10-2009, 10:33 AM

Rufustr - I think you should post a picture of the smaller raised deck boat on your Photobucket pages. The one with the red lapstrake hull and the smiling chap at the stern. I'd be grinning too if was standing in that boat. Any information on it's history would be appreciated.

rufustr

04-10-2009, 06:27 PM

The little red hulled boat is Toonalook and was at the 2007 Hobart Wooden Boat Festival.

http://www.fhboats.com.au/event_tasy.htm

http://www.fhboats.com.au/toonalook.htm

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/DSC00652.jpg

http://www.fhboats.com.au/images/tl34.jpg

raiseddeck

04-11-2009, 07:11 PM

Wanted: Raised deck cruiser; 24'-26 '.
like:

http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/maddy_18.htm

or:

" Bamaling " or " Chum"

from:

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/

Any Leads ?

George

David G

04-11-2009, 07:40 PM

Some close up photos of Latura.

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2118012&posted=1#post2118012

Thanks for those. She's sure a beauty.

Oldsalt

04-13-2009, 05:16 PM

Maynard Bray wrote an article in the May/June WoodenBoat (issue #208) on Hand V-Bottom boats. WoodenBoat's research library can furnish reprints of building plans including offset tables which were first published in Motor Boating in the 1920s for several raised deck cruisers in the 25' to 40' range, including the 36' Claire.

rufustr

04-13-2009, 05:25 PM

You are a Mongrel Old salt.:D

I havn't received my copy of Issue 208 yet.:(

The thought of an article on William Hand designed boats has me very interested.:cool:

(Mongrel is a term of endearment, as in 'Mongrel Dog':D)

landlocked sailor

04-14-2009, 10:17 PM

I am working on thishttp://www.bluejacketboats.com/BJ28%20P&P%201r.jpgI

snow

04-15-2009, 02:31 AM

I like this 40-footer too - ATRIA (1935). And yes, I do like caanoe sterns!

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/1/5/3/5/0_3.jpg

http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/2/1/5/3/5/1_3.jpg

Its for sale at AUS$160,000 - i would buy this if it was in NZ. I'm in love. Inside needs some work to bring it back to the right period but over all very me.
;););)

TonyH

05-08-2009, 03:22 AM

I came across another cache of pictures of raised deck cruisers so I thought I'd breathe a little more life into this thread. I'm glad you liked ATRIA ,Snow :).

AVONITA (1934 Halvorsen)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000258.jpg

Bonito (1925 WM Ford)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000263.jpg

Here's another Halvorsen (this time from 1951) KURINGAI, which Ian occasionally refers to:

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000009_2.jpg

MALUKA (1932 Cliff Gale)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000240.jpg

RHONDA (1918 Ned Jack)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000211.jpg

TonyH

05-08-2009, 03:30 AM

SHALIMAR (1941, amateur-built by Len Rawson)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000217.jpg

SEAFARER III (1936 amateur-built by V.L. Hunt)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000105.jpg

SIESTA (1935 Williams)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000289.jpg

WAIBEN (1948 Thursday Island pilot vessel)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000231.jpg

WARATAH (1938 Williams)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000157.jpg

TonyH

05-08-2009, 03:35 AM

WINNILYA (1938 Lawrence)

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000247.jpg

YUM SING, a 1928 AC Barber "PRINCE" class built by Holmes:

http://www.anmm.gov.au/eMuseum/media/full/ARHV/HV000111.jpg

And finally, I like this 21 foot fixer-upper, currently on ebay in Tasmania for $200!

http://i8.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/46/fb/b6fd_1.JPG

The Bigfella

05-08-2009, 07:28 AM

I plan on going to Tassie in October. I could take a trailer down and back....

Lew Barrett

05-08-2009, 10:55 AM

The Halvorsens are special, aren't they. The few I've seen are even more appealing in "the flesh." Nicely detailed without being over the top, really nice cruising layouts, best quality materials and classic lines. It's no wonder they are prized in their homeland.

C. Ross

05-08-2009, 01:19 PM

Great boats Tony, thanks.

Ian, is Grantala a Halvorsen?

The Bigfella

05-08-2009, 08:23 PM

Great boats Tony, thanks.

Ian, is Grantala a Halvorsen?

Nah mate - much better than that, its a Holmes. The design is by an American, AM Deering of Chicago - as featured in Rudder, July '37. Incidentally - some Halvorsen decendents live in my street.

Its a bit of a joke among non-Halvorsen owners at boat shows here, but a walk down the pier full of Halvo's is a bit like wandering through a snooty restaurant, they all seem to think that their rear ends don't stink.

Lew Barrett

05-09-2009, 12:24 PM

I did post links to the other Deering I know for you, didn't I Ian?

PeterSibley

05-09-2009, 06:32 PM

About time I contributed ,
Hobart Wooden Boat Show 2009

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/363853428.jpg

rufustr

05-09-2009, 06:46 PM

I have photos of that boat as well Peter.

Lovely boat.:cool::cool:

Another one from the Hobart WBS.

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/DSC00638.jpg

flyinwall

05-14-2009, 06:45 PM

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8df10b3127ccec36bfad5c1d100000010O02Bbs3DVuzZA9 vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
The wheelhouse could use a bit of work, but I'm kind of partial to her lines.

is there any more info on this boat who designed her and are there any plans and more pics of it would be nice as i too like her lines and she would be the perfect boat for me

nautiguy

05-16-2009, 10:34 AM

Watched the movie "Absence of Malice" with Paul Newman, Sally Field, and a gorgeous raised deck cruiser. Good movie about the power of the press a generation ago.

I wonder if anybody here knows about the boat.

Norm

TonyH

06-05-2009, 02:37 AM

Here's a lovely project-boat fixer-upper on ebay here in Sydney at the moment. Thirty feet long. Lots of potential!:)

http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!BTj5ldwCGk~$(KGrHgoOKjoEjlLmRkbZBKJF)TdkiQ~~_1.JP G

TonyH

06-05-2009, 02:44 AM

This one deserves better too. Sad to see pretty boats like this left to rot.

http://www.abbotsfordboatshed.com.au/images/salty.gif

martin schulz

06-05-2009, 04:18 AM

I really don't like the look of raised deck sailing boats, but it looks quite cool in motorboats, such as the Kiel-Classic:

http://www.batliv.se/img/news/800_Kiel%20Classic%202.jpg

adampet

06-05-2009, 07:13 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/w9z0pc.jpg

This is now living in my home waters. I rowed around it yesterday. Does any one have more info on who built it? I'm guessing Arey's Pond or Pease Boatworks.

Adam

rbgarr

06-05-2009, 09:09 AM

Yes! Pagan is a Doug Hylan TOP HAT design and was built by Benjamin River Marine in Sedgwick, Maine as the prototype. See other photos in the New Construction link here http://www.dhylanboats.com/ Plans and a build CD can be purchased, too.

She was built for a woman (sister of a friend) who kept her at her place on Shelter Island. Coecles Harbor Boatyard cared for the boat very well.

I was told she went to owners in Pleasant Bay on the Cape. Is that so?

adampet

06-06-2009, 08:01 AM

She is on the mooring of a owner of a local Real Estate company. Yes on Pleasant Bay. His previous boat was an Arey's Pond launch.
http://www.areyspondboatyard.com/images/launch5_dodger.jpg

I haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. I was figuring she was a version of Handy Billy built locally, as he has a track record of supporting local boatyards. Looks as if that was the inspiration. Nice!

Adam

raiseddeck

06-24-2009, 03:57 PM

looks just like a production catboat without the mast.

raiseddeck

G. Schollmeier

06-24-2009, 04:11 PM

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5506.jpg
Under 20' but I like the look. http://www.dngoodchild.com/5506.htm

Stu Fyfe

06-24-2009, 11:11 PM

Adam,
So you think the Wilkinson's own Pagan? Sweet!

Robert Meyer

06-24-2009, 11:33 PM

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5506.jpg
Under 20' but I like the look. http://www.dngoodchild.com/5506.htm
I think you would like Ragtime from Chesapeake Marine Design also
http://www.cmdboats.com/images/ragtime1.jpg

pandelume

06-25-2009, 05:06 PM

I like Monks's Mariner- at 19ft it seems like a reasonable size for me. Has anyone seen one firsthand?

G. Schollmeier

06-28-2009, 02:24 PM

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/Snapshot_June_27_2009_.jpg

This nice one was spotted in the LaConner channel yesterday. Looks like a new build.

Dave R

06-28-2009, 10:08 PM

Several years ago I read a book about a fellow's experience with a raised deck boat. If I remember right he kept it up a river on the Maine coast someplace. Does that give anyone enough of a memory jog to recall the book or the boat?

landlocked sailor

06-29-2009, 05:18 AM

Sailing in a Spoonful of Water by Joe Coomer? Rick

Dave R

06-29-2009, 06:19 AM

That would be it. Thanks Rick.

I like raised deck boats, too. Don't see them 'round here, though.

TonyH

06-29-2009, 07:16 AM

Just saw this 30 foot canoe sterned motor-sailer on ebay. So many boats, so little time (and money:rolleyes:)!

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!BPycWFg!Wk~$(KGrHgoOKjYEjlLmS1ctBJ1YscnQ8w~~_1.JP G

G. Schollmeier

06-29-2009, 12:50 PM

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/LaConner_Raised_Deck.jpg

Here is another shot that shows the profile.
Does anyone recognize this boat or the design?

rbgarr

06-29-2009, 12:56 PM

Sailing in a Spoonful of Water by Joe Coomer? Rick

I often ask my mother for a 'boat book' for Christmas or my birthday. She occasionally reads them first before wrapping and sending them along. I find notes in the margin and dogeared pages more often than not. It's kind of endearing. Spoonful of Water was one of the first she sent and I could tell she loved it. :)