My rudder wants to leave me...

[R.I.Singer30]

Any ideas on fixing this cast aluminum(?) piece from a Catalina 22(sorry for swearing).
https://hrnymw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pFsAIcbhB5UMVKaElyASBSSitDd65I7WNUgGSckM8O0KCqUn l8EvHseo-kUpZWdSNSirIwoYO62zXbxngUbuosRG5lWho029g/SANY0487.JPG

[Paul Pless]

no photo here

[R.I.Singer30]

Red x ??


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[Paul Pless]

not even

[Captain Intrepid]

Upload it to here from your computer. http://imageshack.us/ Hotmail etc isn't set up to allow linking to something in your account like that. You can see it cause you're logged in on your computer, but no one else will be able to.

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

Any ideas on fixing this cast aluminum(?) piece from a Catalina 22(sorry for swearing).
https://hrnymw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pFsAIcbhB5UMVKaElyASBSSitDd65I7WNUgGSckM8O0KCqUn l8EvHseo-kUpZWdSNSirIwoYO62zXbxngUbuosRG5lWho029g/SANY0487.JPG

The img link is to an secure (https) server (https://hrnymw.bay.livefilestore.com) - to see the piccy I would have to sign on with a password.

Photobucket is a much better bet.

[Thorne]

Here’s how to post photos on this forum:

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[R.I.Singer30]

Darn computer thingy.I have a shutterfly account and used it before but my hotmail said it would hold and store them also so I tried it and it didn't work .sorry to alarm. Now where was I..I hope this is better.It appears to be a cast Al or Mg..?
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[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

Weld it - you need a competent welder for that.
Then drill and possibly ream.

[R.I.Singer30]

Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was a common replacement or afraid I would have to refabricate it myself. DanL

[BBSebens]

something like a catalina 22 is probably common enough that you could maybe find a replacement if you hunt about a bit.

welding works too though.

[Paul Pless]

It appears to be a cast Al or Mg..?
certainly not magnesium... if it were you wouldn't need any zincs for your boat.

[RFNK]

Just let it go ....

[JimConlin]

Can the boat's manufacturer supply it?

[R.I.Singer30]

This is what I have found $93.00 and not the same. It would take some finnegalling I am sure. I tried calling them (Catalina Direct) a little while ago but no answer. They are on the Left coast and still waking up. I'll try later .Welding may be the easiest. I did try to remove the screws with no luck, to remove the center mount but they are certainly one. Now I wonder if they can weld it whlie still connected to the rudder without melting the snot.?
http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/products/D2182_S01.jpg

[Thorne]

There has **gotta** be several Catalina owners associations around, with links to various sail and hardware suppliers. I'd work those contacts first if at all possible.

[John Smith]

Red x ??


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I got the red x

[Rich VanValkenburg]

There's a user here named pipefitter that is a good welder. He'll have some good advice. Welding aluminum isn't easy.

[floatingkiwi]

Just let it go ....

Sticky...., just let it.....??? A little worried about you lately mate.

[floatingkiwi]

For another...(sniff)...rudder!!

[mobjack68]

Is there a vocational school anywhere near you ??
Find a school with a welding program, our local community college as small as it is, has welding. The welding instructors are certified and generally have many years experience in all phases of welding. They will get the job done right for you.

[R.I.Singer30]

I just got off the phone with Catalina direct .He straightened me out abit.My boat has an optional kick up rudder.The replacement ,only sold as a kit is $390.00.

The next option is whether they can weld cast aluminium.Then it's whether I can get a block of Aluminium and machine it.

http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/D1082_S01.jpg

[TonyH]

I have a friend with a Beneteau 27.7 who has just had a similar problem- cast alumnium mounting bracket for the rudder, with a bronze bush in it! Sure enough, the rudder started feeling kinda loose...:rolleyes:

He's going to get it welded (difficult but possible), re-machined and then perhaps see if he can get a UHDP bush made instead. I suggested lignum-vitae...:D

[Paul Pless]

I just got off the phone with Catalina direct .He straightened me out abit.My boat has an optional kick up rudder.The replacement ,only sold as a kit is $390.00.

The next option is whether they can weld cast aluminium.Then it's whether I can get a block of Aluminium and machine it.

http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/D1082_S01.jpg'Course this is a woodenboat forum... certainly there ought to be instruction around on how to build a wooden rudder.:p

Shouldn't be too much trouble to find someone to weld it back for you.

[Bill Huson]

I have witnessed the welding of cast aluminum using a TIG welder. This was on the lower unit shell of a large outboard engine, and the welder didn't remove the part, just welded it while still attached to the tower.

[Les Schuldt]

Something else you might want to consider for the future.....

Is that copper bottom paint on your aluminum rudder? If so, its using your aluminum rudder as a zinc and will slowly eat it away. Better to leave it bare or get anti-fouling paint formulated for aluminum.

Les