View Full Version : classic understatement
Paul G.
05-20-2009, 04:22 PM
regarding 12 meter swell forecast in Cook Straight :D
Regional harbourmaster Captain Mike Pryce said swells of up to 12m were forecast for Saturday.
"It's going to be a bit lumpy for the next three days. If the sailing does go it'll be lively. I don't think they'll be selling many meat pies."
Paul G.
05-20-2009, 04:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66j6vazwLFg
John B
05-20-2009, 06:52 PM
Hoo boy, thats weird. clicky on a you tube link and get a wooden boat message telling me I have a problem.
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tell me its not the beginning of the end.
Captain Intrepid
05-20-2009, 06:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66j6vazwLFg
That one should work for you.
John B
05-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Ta for that.. I don't get why the first one doesn't work for me... I can't see any difference in the code ?
Captain Intrepid
05-20-2009, 07:16 PM
When you link to something, the name of the link doesn't have to be the same as the actual link itself.
[ u r l = www . somewhere . com ]www . Elsewhere . com[ / u r l ] will look like www.Elsewhere.com, but will send you to www.somewhere.com.
The Bigfella
05-20-2009, 07:22 PM
Watching that made me, of course, think of the Wahine disaster in '68. I looked it up on Youtube and was surprised to see no swell involved. Just the wind by the look of it.
AJZimm
05-20-2009, 08:09 PM
For those of us who don't live on the bottom half of the globe, I take it that this is a ferry that is crossing Cook Straight? Is it a vehicle ferry or just a people ferry? If a vehicle ferry, wouldn't want my vehicle on that trip.
As bad as the pitching is, imagine how much worse it would be if the ship was beam-on to the swell.
John B
05-21-2009, 12:28 AM
Watching that made me, of course, think of the Wahine disaster in '68. I looked it up on Youtube and was surprised to see no swell involved. Just the wind by the look of it.
Wahine you mean? That had a massive following sea.. a screaming S Easter.
Theres a good animation of the events leading up to it , IIRC she basically broached and then couldn't get the bow to pay off... ended up backing onto barrets reef and damaging the stern including the steering gear.
watson1990
05-21-2009, 12:58 AM
I have always wanted to visit down there ...until this !
Good lord !!
W
The Bigfella
05-21-2009, 02:02 AM
Yeah John, the Wahine... in this footage, which is of her on the reef, there's hardly any swell, although there may well have been further out....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5GNSZfDUN8
The animation shows swells that just aren't there in the link I posted
dhic001
05-21-2009, 03:17 AM
Yeah John, the Wahine... in this footage, which is of her on the reef, there's hardly any swell, although there may well have been further out....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5GNSZfDUN8
The animation shows swells that just aren't there in the link I posted
That footage isn't on Barrett's Reef, Wahine drifted well up harbour after hitting the reef, and hence the lack of swell further in. The final resting place was out of sight of the mouth of the harbour, and on the more sheltered side of the harbour. The ship ended up not far from the south western side of the harbour, but the winds drove the lifeboats to the more rugged eastern side, not a nice place to end up in that gale.
Daniel
The Bigfella
05-21-2009, 04:45 AM
I thought it might have been something like that Daniel, but it was surprising to see how flat the water was. I've done that trip 3 times now.
I remember surfing right inside Sydney Harbour in May 1974, in very big seas, when a ship with a big banner on the side saying `Captain Cook Coffee Cruises' went past us off Balmoral, looking very much like this ferry in Cook Strait. We all laughed as we imagined decks and laps awash with coffee. Of course it's very rare for Sydney Harbour to be so rough but Cook Strait is regarded as one of the world's roughest short crossings I think. I also noticed the current under those waves trying to break in that Youtube footage - I don't think I'd want to be out in that in the Folkboat!
I'm pretty sure this ferry carries passengers and cars.
Rick
The Bigfella
05-21-2009, 05:47 AM
Yes, it carries vehicles and passengers
Paul G.
05-21-2009, 06:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66j6vazwLFg
That one should work for you.
Dunno why my link didnt work, thanks for that!
Graeme Forrest
05-23-2009, 12:13 AM
I am not sure but I think that particular ferry has mainly trucks on board and the only passengers would be their drivers who would be trying to get a few hours sleep during the crossing!!!
Graeme
The Bigfella
05-23-2009, 12:28 AM
I just did a search on her and she seems to be running in Fiji these days.
http://www.taveuni.com.au/services/ferry.htm#suilvan
floatingkiwi
05-23-2009, 03:34 AM
For those of us who don't live on the bottom half of the globe, I take it that this is a ferry that is crossing Cook Straight? Is it a vehicle ferry or just a people ferry? If a vehicle ferry, wouldn't want my vehicle on that trip.
As bad as the pitching is, imagine how much worse it would be if the ship was beam-on to the swell.
The Cook Strait ferry is a 3 1/2 hour trip that travels predominantly East West from Nth to Sth to Nth Islands and they are actually rail ferries.If one sits in the bar for an early beer the ferry lists quite noticably as they load the rail cars from side to side.Then there is the Strait. Hang on to your beer or wear it.
Of course private motor vehicles are also driven on.
Paul G.
05-23-2009, 03:52 AM
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5401116.jpg
Its the colour of the water Brrrhhh!
http://image16.webshots.com/17/1/84/45/190618445mifcYM_ph.jpg
Getting windy
http://image32.webshots.com/33/5/73/78/271657378UnmChW_ph.jpg
Meat Pie Thanks
http://www.thewahine.co.nz/images/Aramoana%20rough%20seas.jpg
The Aramoana
http://www.thewahine.co.nz/images/off_Steeple.jpg
The ill fated Wahine
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/8/10614680_79c04bb312.jpg?v=0
Another average day
rufustr
05-23-2009, 04:11 AM
A good video here.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3662934917980860966
dhic001
05-23-2009, 04:19 AM
Imagine that under sail, with no motor. was a regular occurance not that many decades ago, and a good many ships were lost because of it.
Daniel
Paul G.
05-23-2009, 04:23 AM
How would you like to be out there in that! I wonder how my little sloop would handle it.
Salty Sailor
05-23-2009, 05:43 AM
Here a good way not to spend your holiday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohr0KfVXZA
Salty Sailor
05-23-2009, 05:47 AM
And this a gripping moment from the wheelhouse of a large fishing ship as she is hit by giant wave broadside....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hOai9hGQ
Salty Sailor
05-23-2009, 06:01 AM
Last one I promise,
Slightly off topic but an eye opening video.
Spot the sailing vessel at the end of the clip.
The Perfect Storm, but wait... What's that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z12pEG2aAeA&feature=related
Paul G.
05-23-2009, 06:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvkWjQYzuCM
bit windy in this one but not too rough (yet), those cook straight storms are no real comparison. However this did deteriorate into arguably the worst yachting disaster ever. I was priveliged enough to listen to a presentation given by the winchman from the rescue helicopter involved in saving 12 people. His description of the chopper hovering 80 feet above the waves then suddenly looking UP at a swirling mass of sails & rigging as a huge wave came through was frightening. The video was remarkable.
Thorne
05-23-2009, 12:58 PM
MUCH prefer that trip when the water looks like this:
http://www.luckhardt.com/DSCN1199-web.jpg
Tom Galyen
05-23-2009, 01:59 PM
Impressive, in my 6 years at sea on destroyers in the Navy I can say "I've been there done that" but I can't say I've gotten the "T" shirt as they didn't give them out then.
Tom G. (Seaweed)
We crossed the Cook Straight two years ago in February on the Blue Bridge ferry, carrying passangers, trucks, sheep, and private cars. It was glassy smooth. I could have rowed my 71/2 ft pram across. A long row however.
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