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deltabrent
06-05-2009, 08:05 PM
I'm currently getting all the necessary things into my basement shop for a build this fall and winter.
The big problem is the only way in or out of the shop is through a standard 3ft door.
I want to build something in this space that can sail in/around the gulf of Vancouver island, row, hang a small outboard off the stern (a seagull or something equally classic would be nice)
Hold 2-3 people.
Stepped mast so I can pay cheap moorage under the ramp.
Will a 10ft Acorn skiff or similar fit the bill?
I'd like to build lapstrake I think? I like to look of the Acorn skiffs.
I also like the Pea Pods in Gardner's small craft book.
Ideas?
donald branscom
06-05-2009, 08:10 PM
Lets see.... 2-3 people plus outboard+gas can +ice chest.
OK ..take away the ice chest? OK.OK you can keep the ice chest
But no anchor?
You will need more than a 10ft. boat in my opinion.
Standard door, 6'8"by 2'8", you can get a 14' to 16' flat bottom boat through that. How much wiggle room do you have to work with , or is it straight out?
BrianM
06-05-2009, 09:13 PM
A 16' skiff would provide generous space for 3 people. My 16' Dory (which is quite a bit narrower with less interior volume than a skiff) seated 3 adults, but very little space for gear where acess was easy.
paladin
06-05-2009, 09:24 PM
Build two small boats connected by a couple of crossbeams......demountable.
JimConlin
06-05-2009, 10:10 PM
Think multilihulls.
This
http://conlin-boats.com/hpim0754b.jpg
was gotten out of the shop through a 7' x 7' opening.
deltabrent
06-05-2009, 10:23 PM
I'll have to measure it to know exactly.
Once I'm through the door there is no problem getting it out.
I don't know if I'm all that into multi hulls?
I'll have to do some more snooping around.
I keep coming back to seeing myself in a lapstrake boat I can strap an engine on and go for an evening putt or take for a sail/row.
Over night/weekend camping is what it would be for.
deltabrent
06-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Any one know how high the stem and transom are on this boat?
Sounds perfect:
http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/details.asp?Name=Guillemot
I agree with those suggesting a bigger boat. http://www.selway-fisher.com/quick_index_dayboats.htm
andrewe
06-06-2009, 02:36 AM
With the investment (time and mental involvement) in a nice boat, I would look to the door frame. A little hammer and chisel work could widen your choice considerably. ( apology for the pun:))
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michigangeorge
06-06-2009, 07:43 AM
Time for your imput - SLIDERCAT
CundysHarbor
06-06-2009, 09:05 AM
When I built a 12 foot Marco Polo tender in the cellar with only a bulkhead out, every visitor asked "are you sure you can get her out of here". I finally started saying that I really had no idea if she would fit. EVERYONE wanted to help on moving day!
Paul Scheuer
06-06-2009, 12:15 PM
When I built the Yankee Tender in my basement shop, I had a cardboard scale model that I made for other purposes. It was a simple matter to build a scale door frame. Plan B would have been to remove the door frame and see what needed to be done to the framing.
The Yankee Tender, although a little small for your stated purpose, went through with room to spare.
Not to drift too far, the other purpose for the model was to answer the question as to whether the chine logs could be bent from straight pieces. The answer is yes, and the bottom edge of the garboards is a straight line.
Richard Jones
06-06-2009, 12:20 PM
I would think that any small design would fit out a 3' door when flipped sideways. My shop is in my basement. When planning, I always build an exact mini model of both basement and boat. This way I always know if my latest build will see daylight. Biggest project down there was a 16'x32" canoe. Had to remove stairs to make the turn, but it fit! Next project is a 15'x39" pulling boat. If you hear a loud scream in a couple of months, you'll know it didn't fit!
mcdenny
06-06-2009, 02:13 PM
Using small scale plans for a 19' Caledonia Yawl, it looks like even that could (barely) be threaded through a 3' wide space. Might take some careful handling but the bare hull is light <400 #. Other smaller Oughtred designs would likely fit fine.
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