New brakes !

[John B]

and I only had to sell one kid to get em.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3645_2.jpg

no idea when I'll get a chance to try em out though.:rolleyes:

My mate and I had planned to have the rocnas for last christmas' cruise but they ran out of stock and the agency was changing at the same time.
Should be good for next season now though.

[dhic001]

and I only had to sell one kid to get em.

Better sell another kid, then you can have a spare, it'll save on the food bill too.
I don't have any kids to sell, good thing too, don't know where I'd put one of those on Zeltic!
Daniel

[Don Kurylko]

Alright John! :) :cool: Those are on my short list too, along with the Sarca. Please let us know what you think of it once you get a chance to try it out. Best of luck!

[John B]

Sounds like heaven Daniel:)

Will do Don. My plough seems to work fine when its in but it takes some setting occasionally. I expect this thing to bite first time every time.;)

[Don Kurylko]

All I have read about these anchors has been very positive. It’s a good choice, in my opinion.

[John B]

I did quite a bit of research and my friend Dave who I often cruise with, did the same. We had a toss up between the Manson supreme and this one but both felt happier going this way. We like getting away from the sheeples and the popular bays they crowd into,and that brings an element of risk as its often a potentially exposed bit of coast.
Whichever type, I feel that there's definitely been an advance in anchor design and it needed to be one of the ' new generation' types. Another mate gets good results from his Bruce,( a genuine one ) but they're often rip offs now .. I don't think the originals are even made anymore.
anyway.. thats what it is and I'll find out;)

[Paul Fitzgerald]

We bought a new Manson Supreme earlier this year, havn't used it in anger yet.

[Hwyl]

My mate and I had planned to have the rocnas for last christmas' cruise but they ran out of stock and the agency was changing at the same time.


I thought they were made in EnZed. Are you going to switch to those plastic blade propellers too.

I always wanted to make an anchor, like a Bruce, but with a more pronounced "W" shape to the cutting edge. I'd call it the Wancor, of course.

[John B]

They were, then there was this flirtation with manufacture in Asia / China somewhere right around that time ( part of the out of stock issue I'm told) and now they're made back here in Godzone.

I had a kiwi prop on Waione after I became fed up with the vibration the feathering bronze 2 blader I had. It worked well .. smooth and used the power efficiently enough. Vicious reverse though , I really don't understand why it has to be that way.

Wancor eh. How about Pwyck.( there's an idea)

[Zane Lewis]

Great things. Dad got one of those "Spade" ones and has never looked back. First one was a hi tensile alloy unit but on a lee shore with divers in the water a good wind chop rolling in and she must have got of to one side and then snumbed up hard and bent the shaft. Still it she was taking green water over the bow as the waves rolled through first. They then replaced the alloy one with a steel one under warrentee.

http://www.navstore.com/Images/spade/spade_1.jpg

Zane

[John B]

Yeah , those are interesting all right. I think the key is as I mentioned above, that there definitely has been a shift and any of these new generation anchors are an improvement on the older styles.

The rocna will fit the bow roller fairly easily. I'm going to go to some trouble to locate it firmly in there by making a chock out of a block of plastic I think. The narrow plate style allows a lot of lateral movement in there and I want that to be really locked in. I don't think I'll bother with the self launching aspect .( it doesn't because of the geometry of my fairlead, and chain weight)

[John B]

I haven't been in a rush to do this... no prospect of getting out in the boat recently but I had the spare man slightly modified to accomodate the new anchor.
The Rocna site and knowledge base recommends against using a locking pin and I see why . Your average CQR or plough type has a substantial knuckle at the plough/ shank joint so sits very squarely and nicely on that in the fairlead. These new generation anchors with their narrow shank( 20mm or so ) plate steel lets them swing side to side in the fairlead quite dramatically( although they lock in fore and aft very nicely) and I can see why that would bend pins.
Still , I have one already there and together with the idea from the rocna site of a stabilising foot ( which has now been added) I'll try it out.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3727_1.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3729_2.jpg

and on the boat.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3734_3.jpg

being big on redundancy:rolleyes:, I had an extra eye welded on as well and I expect I'll rig a lanyard and clip hook to take a wrap around the roll bar from one ear of the fairlead to the other when we sail.(I might just flag away the pin altogether)

[Wooden Boat Fittings]

.
The SARCA (http://www.anchorright.com.au/) is a good anchor too (looks rather similar to yours, John.) It comes in weights from 2.5 to 145 kg, galvanised or stainless. As well as apparently having the same excellent holding power, what I think I like about it more than the Rocna is the slot in the stock to which the mooring warp/chain is shackled. This is supposed to make the anchor self-tripping and allow you to sail it out if necessary. (I've never had occasion to try, so I can't confirm whether it works or not.)

http://www.anchorright.com.au/images/sarca/sarca-anchor-1-ss.jpg

I had a couple of good Danforth-style anchors with self-tripping ability too, and they did work.

Mike
(It looks like the Manson Supreme is a self-tripper too.)

[2MeterTroll]

if its SS i am going to laugh at you.

[John B]

if its SS i am going to laugh at you.

Have to sell 2 kids to get those.

Yeah Mike that tripping function is interesting. Usually you select which piece you shackle into .. ie the manson supreme has an eye and/or the slot. The sarca looks like its the only way you can hook it up and that would make me nervous.

Anyway we'll know in a month or so when I get to use the thing but I haven't heard anyone do anything but rave about how good they are so far.
Talkng to an American cruiser on the weeekend who has a spade and he loves that.

[2MeterTroll]

I like spades as well. they have good holding in several bottom conditions. only time i have had a drag with one was on a very rocky bottom. big rocks not little stuff the spade just could not find purchase so we dropped an old navy in and that worked a treat.

[Wooden Boat Fittings]

.
I think you're right about there being a fundamental change in anchor design in recent years, John. The Manson, the Ronca, and the Sarca all look very similar, and it would be interesting to see the results of comparative set and pull-out tests between the three.

As far as the self-tripping function goes, my Danforths set just the way you'd expect, and held the boat just the way you'd expect. And when I experimented with the self-tripping function, I found that the anchor-shackle did indeed slide right back along the stock and trip the anchor quite readily, just as it was supposed to. I suppose a problem might possibly occur if you were wind-rode with the anchor buried deeply and the wind veered (or backed :) ) 180°. Some field tests on that would be good.

Mike

[John B]

and the wind veered (or backed )
Thats why I couldn't live with it, happens all the time.

No ,I think the slot would be good for anchoring where you know its foul or rocky( boulders) but you need the option as to whether you use it or not. I'll have a tripping line/ buoy instead I think .

[Wooden Boat Fittings]

.
Makes sense. I've only ever anchored in mud or sand.

However, it would be simple enough to weld a straight piece across the slot at the end, to give yourself the option of using the slot or the eye so formed.

Now I think about it, you could probably even use a bit of break-out wire that would snap in an emergency.

Mike

[rbgarr]

JB,

It looks like the Rocna now has a slightly different shape than what I remember when they first came out. That angled lip along the forward edge seems new to me.

Are the two holes, the lower one in the shank and in the plow, for trip lines?

What size is it and how did you decide on that?

Thx

[John B]

I don't know about the angle Dave. The leading hole is for a trip line and the one on the shank is for shackling on chain and a second anchor.
Its 20 kg , 44 pounds.. same as the cqr the boat has had for many years. The boat doesn't drag but I want to improve the initial set , I believe the weight is right for the boat and this new anchor will do that .Its on the small side of the published guidelines but it fits in the anchor locker so yes , it was a bit of a dilemma. The next size jump was to 55lbs and that is a monster of a thing physically... too big to fit in the locker , or come in under the pulpit etc etc.

[Wooden Boat Fittings]

.
Okay, I've just found a comparative test of fourteen anchors, included all those talked about here, that was undertaken by Yachting Monthly in December 2006.

It makes for interesting reading (http://www.yosc.org.uk/anchortests.pdf).

Mike

[John B]

Yee-ha, the only thread of mine that doesn't immediately plummet to the depths is a thread about anchors.:D

That and the Sailworld test were part of the research we did before deciding on the Rocna.
Gee, if only I had an opportunity to do a real world /real time test myself.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I have a little problem - which is why I carry a brace of CQRs lashed in chocks on the foredeck.

With a bowsprit one side of the forestay I have a single roller, which takes the buoy warp, so I have no way to carry an anchor on the stemhead.

Assuming I could sell a child, I don't see where I could put a Rocna, though I am sure they are very good.

[martin schulz]

I bought this one 3 years ago and I am quite pleased.

http://www.esys.org/esys/anker-buegelanker-eingraben.jpg

I am also abit surprised about the anchor you showed John. The inventor of the "Bügelanker" (hoop-anchor) who lives close by, told me this type of anchor is his invention and he has only allowed one company to sell them. I think your type is very much alike.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I was surprised to see so many Rocnas in Flensburg! ;)

[Bill Perkins]

Thanks Mike for the link to the testing . I got a package discount from West Marine when first outfitting my boat . This included their knock off of the Danforth .It seems I should now send this to the recycling bin and replace with the Fortress . Testing the original Danforth with the other's would seem to have made sense . I wonder why that didn't happen ?

[johngsandusky]

I'm a bit skeptical of the test. It found the CQR to be ineffective, where so many of us have found it excellent over the years. I read the whole article, it seemed like a sound test. But my test was anchoring a 32000 lb ketch in a tropical depression, five nights in different locations. No dragging. The same anchor has been used many times on this boat in Fl and the Bahamas. And, of course, many cruisers have been happy with it all over the world.

[John B]

I haven't had issues with cqr/ plough holding power either. But I have had issues setting them in different bottoms and found it interesting that the test reflected my own experience that way.
The Fortress is a great anchor but again, I've seen plenty of mangled danforths and even ploughs, personally I wouldn't be happy with one for my main anchor . Great kedge though.

There's no hope for you Andrew, I can't see how you'd stow it with a bowsprit without the spare man being significantly offset.

Martin, you're coming into the nefarious area of design and patents and what constitutes a copy. I could say that the bugel is a plough copy on that basis, but I wouldn't....
All wheels have developed to be round, of this general type of plough development but new generation type, they share some common features.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I suppose I will have to carry on with the CQRs - the old bower, now kedge, 35lb, that reads "Patent Applied For" and the newer 45lb bower that reads, "Made in Scotland".

In my experience, a CQR will almost always set, unless you do something very silly with it, The technique is to dump a lot of chain on it and then leave it to sort itself out, which it will unless you drag it off a cliff into much deeper water.

I suppose people have such stronly helf views on anchors because one so rarely buys a new one.

[John B]

The technique is to dump a lot of chain on it and then leave it to sort itself out, which it will unless you drag it off a cliff into much deeper water.
LOL.
Friends Jim and Nancy ran an old bridgedecker for decades here, the Lady Margaret.They were getting on a bit and were real characters , really nice people. The LM had a big ole fisherman that somehow lived in the fairlead and when it came time for anchoring , Jim would tool that boat into the bay with Nancy standing on the foredeck, hands on hips waiting for the nod, because a nod was the instruction to drop anchor. Actually, I'm not even sure it was a nod , maybe a twitch of his nose for all I know . She'd be looking forward and then pointedly looking back at him when she thought it was right, he'd snick it into R to stop dead and she'd boot that fisherman off the bow and step back while the chain ran out and stopped by itself all in the same spot. They pretty well anchored same depth every time so the thing was pre cleated off, she'd walk away down below, Jim'd shut down and that was it. I don't think I ever saw them set it.

I'm told they often dragged.:D:D Not that I ever saw.

When we were motorless in Waione for several years we never had a set problem( or a mooring problem for that matter). When we put the motor in circa 1995 I had trouble learning how to get it on the mooring(LOL) but thats when we started to have the occasional anchoring issue. My theory was that sailing on to anchor , you always had a little bit of motion one way or the other , often a little forward motion ( because we'd picked a spot for it to land ), and always she'd wash off a bit laterally before going back . I always thought that sort of progressively curled the anchor in and gave us a good set every time .

[Hwyl]

That's pretty much what I do. I drop the hook and let the boat shear off sideways, and lay the chain out with very little tension. When I've mulled over the problems of the world. I tighten the brake and watch her head swing round, if it's a good sharp snatch. I break out the Heinekens

[MiddleAgesMan]

The CQR's weakness is handling wind shifts. It happened to me in moderate conditions--a 90 degree shift un-set the anchor and we dragged onto a mud flat without serious consequence. The Roth's Whisper did the same thing in heavy winds down in Chile with serious consequences.

[martin schulz]

When we were motorless in Waione for several years we never had a set problem( or a mooring problem for that matter).

I think it is much more fun to manoeuvre without engine.
Last weekend we left Flensburg harbout under sail, had a pretty good time sailing out of the bay in gusts up to 7Bft (nothing for my wife though - who luckily wasn't on board) and then turned back, sailed into the tight space between the 2 Ox-islands, took down the staysail first, loosened the jib, dropped the gaff-peak and let go the anchor. The next day we left by breaking out the anchor under sail tacking.

This is soooo much fun! Especially because of all those yoghurt-cup owners who stood and stared, assuming we were having engine problems. But our casual appearance suggested that we didn't have any problems and so later on we were asked, why we didn't use the engine. I told them that this place is so nice and quiet, that I didn't want to disturb the atmosphere...

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/sionnachan/sionnachan/Ochsensinsel.jpg

[John B]

Yeah thats fun isn't it.We were 7 years without a motor in Waione.. I only really put it in when we needed to get the boat closer for loading purposes.. second kid came along and we couldn't get a weekends load of kids plus stuff in the dinghy for the trip to the mooring. I still sail Riada on and off anchor reasonably regularly ,but she doesn't have the turning circle the old girl had so there's more planning involved, more space required... well ,options or an escape route required anyway.

You've coelan'd your decks haven't you Martin.

[martin schulz]

You've coelan'd your decks haven't you Martin.

Ehhh...yes - with lots of help by Andrew.
It really was the last option. I didn't have the money to have a new deck and the teak-seams were getting really weak.

Something I still need to do is to put on that anti-slip stuff, because the deck gets really slippery when wet.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii188/sionnachan/sionnachan/coelan-4-2.jpg

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Nice dry cabin, now.

[martin schulz]

Nice dry cabin, now.

Furztrocken!

[Don Kurylko]

Martin, how about posting a photo essay of your boat. I would love to know more about her.

Cheers,
Don

[John B]

Furztrocken!

You can get an ointment for that.:D

[John B]

Someone appears to like my virgin anchor.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3911_1.jpg
yup, that thar is one big red lipstick kissaroo.
How interesting.

[Don Kurylko]

Well kiss my anchor! :eek: :D

[John B]

Maybe its someone who feels sorry for my boat since she never moves.:rolleyes:
I pulled the exhaust mixer off it a couple of weeks ago and discovered damage to the turbo. So she sits out of commission waiting for parts.

I hate that.

[C. Ross]

She must be a heavy metal fan.

Sorry to hear you're out of commission.

I bought a Fortress last winter on ebay. I wanted a light anchor that the ladies could handle. It's very nice indeed, but to get it to set in the chocolate pudding river bottom, a chain is pretty much mandatory.

[John B]

I've been putting off the job because I knew it would escalate.
In the meantime is out with the scraper and heatgun....

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3909_2.jpg

I have blisters .
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_3913_4.jpg

[Mrleft8]

SAIL magazine did a review of a bunch of anchors a few years back. Their final take was that those self righting anchors generally didn't work very well..... I'll see if I can dig up the article and find out what they say about your specific model. (Not that it really matters now that you've got it...)

[John B]

Mine certaiinly doesn't work.

[John B]

The anchor still doesn't work. The engine part has not arrived.:eek:
I can't book the boat out for its haul/ antifoul, looks like our school holidays few days away is in danger now, can't enter the coastal classic .. can't do anything except catch up on little jobs.
I did the uroxsys job on the coamings .. poly varnish stuff with a big reputation here so that looks pretty good. A lot better than the old oil anyway.
6 coats and I think I'll leave it for a season to harden up, give it a buff with 240 later and another 1 or two coats.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4106_6.jpg

Painted the engine beds and a few misc engine worn spots with POR15, installed a catch can on the breather pcv system( high hopes there), had some help replacing the timing belt because its scheduled at 2000 hrs, changed the oil and filters, cleaned the primary fuel filter bowl ( Dahl) and changed it and the secondary filters

Chased the forehatch leak.. one of those pain in the neck type problems . It only ever leaked after about three days in the rain .

two issues.. one where the hatch itself needed removal and rebedding and the second where the forward part of the coaming had developed some movement and therefore a leak.


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4149_4.jpg

No rot , nothing punky.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4154_5.jpg
jigsaw and router job with all the limitations that brings.. still have another piece to build up that forward coaming to fit yet , but at least its all glued in now.

[dhic001]

At this rate John, it'd be quicker to swap Waione and Riada over, at least then you'd be sailing, and Steve would have another bailey to sail against :p
Daniel

[John B]

Thinking about it.

cap on that splash coaming
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4155_1.jpg

shaped off and the hatch rebedded in before the rain. Thats something thats worked I guess.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4157_2.jpg

[CapnJ2ds]

unless you drag it off a cliff into much deeper water.
Ooh yes! Been there, done that. No fun pulling up 35 or so metres of chain - plus anchor - by hand when it's hanging vertically!

I used the good old CQR [and the better knock-offs] for years and couldn't often fault 'em. Then I saw the original Rocna on the bow of Pete Smith's [the designer] "Kiwi Roa" and thought it looked pretty right. Looked even better after the last few fine adjustments, so I got a 40kg one from early production.

Worked superbly! Gave it a good workout, did some silly stuff with it just to see if I could fault it. Nearly wrecked the winch once, but the Rocna always bit in and held.

The "new" boat has a Rocna now - one of the first things I bought for her, a 25kg, being a smaller boat.

I've found from experience that it will cope well with a 180 wind shift, just turning around and staying where it was.

The only change I had to make in my anchoring technique was that I learned I didn't have to allow 2 or 3 metres for the pick to dig in. They dig in right where you drop them.

Incidentally, IMHO a lot of anchoring problems are caused by undersized ground tackle. Auckland boats in particular are almost universally equipped with anchors and rodes a couple of sizes too small. No doubt this is the reason you can sometimes see whole bays busy with re-anchoring [and re-re-anchoring] boats when the wind gets anywhere near gale force.

[John B]

Yes , I keep getting good comments about how great its going to be.
Unfortunately it is still an unused anchor.

I did come up with a clever spanner holder this weekend though. I had to refit the cleats I'd removed for the varnish back to the coamings.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4160_2.jpg

significantly better than vicegrips .

[John B]

The issue is that the water pump and reticulation is above the turbo and at some point in its life its started leaking on the turbo.
When I bought the boat I spotted it and cleaned it / re bedded it etc but the damage was done and hidden under the turbo lagging.
It'll cost about 25 or 30 k to re engine it.. not an option, and why the hell should I have to ,its just a bloody peripheral part.

But I'm at the point where I'm about to blow .One stupid little effing part has turned my boat into a bundle of sticks stuck on its marina for a month. They don't give a ... but I can't book a haul, I can't enter the coastal classic and I can't plan for our school holidays trip.



make that 6 weeks.

Just cancelled my families school holiday cruise next week. Thanks for nothing Perkins UK.
Just told my crew that we can't do the Coastal Classic 120 mile race we've done for the last 10 years or so. Thanks for nothing Perkins UK.
Latest bullshit is its arriving on the 30th...I'll believe it when I see it, because its been nothing but lies so far..

[Steveh]

"Hello, hello, hello John got a new motah"... lovely anchor

Love the spanner holder John. Sorry to hear bout your turbo probs and no go Coastal, bummer plus. If the call did come up I would have had to opt out for approaching work on new 100 year old classic house.

Good time for all that 'other stuff' eh

[John B]

You will not believe what has happened now.

[Jase]

we might if you tell us :P

[Paul Pless]

You will not believe what has happened now.Almost afraid to ask.

[John B]

I picked up the not worth rebuilding $754.52 rebuilt turbo which will run at 20% efficiency if I'm lucky. This is the one I dropped off last week ( week 7) because a. thats what I was advised to do and .b. I'm sick of the porkies, and I just have to go forward, Perkins are untrustworthy.
Shortly after picking up the old one, I took a phone call to say that the new one had arrived.
On the positive side , I'm going to have some cruising this summer.
On the negative side , I just burnt $800 for nothing.

[Paul Pless]

Kinda sucks... but at this point its got to be hard to be unhappy about having a new turbo in your hand.

So... all night thrash to replace and first sail of the year tomorrow?:)

[John B]

Relieved anyway. I'll install it sat or maybe sun ( more like it). My wee girls 18th on sat night.
More to worry about.:rolleyes:

[Paul Pless]

My wee girls 18th on sat night.Wow... that was quick!

[John B]

Tell me about it.:eek:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Misc%20compressed%20ex%20imagest/kids004_1.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Misc%20compressed%20ex%20imagest/kids005_1.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Misc%20compressed%20ex%20imagest/kids007_1.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/cruise%2008/246_4607_1.jpg

[Paul Fitzgerald]

Relieved anyway. I'll install it sat or maybe sun ( more like it). My wee girls 18th on sat night.
More to worry about.:rolleyes:

Word of advice, invite the boys from the school rugby team.
Delegate the bouncing to them.

Oh, and make sure you can't lock the bedroom doors from the inside .....

[Paul Pless]

Wonderful pictures John.

I really like that third one.:)

Give her a 'Happy Birthday' shout out from the WBF.

[seanz]

I was going to be all sympathetic (I still am, parts stuff arounds are teethgrindingly maddening) but you'll have looked at those pics and cheered right up.
:)




Singing......

[dhic001]

You'll be just in time for Labour Weekend John, be able to get out on the water along with every other tom, dick and harry. Your daughter is turning 18! Be afraid, be very afraid, I don't want to remember some 18 year olds I've known. Have fun sailing again.
Daniel

[John B]

Looks like we can begin living again.
I'm now over run with turbos:rolleyes:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4329_3.jpg
Picked the new one up after lunch and installed it in a hour and a half just taking my time .

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4334_1.jpg
I expected a little bit of trouble because of all the other work... cam belt and fuel filters etc requiring that it was bled, but I turned the key and pushed the starter button and voila.. maybe 1 revolution after 8 weeks dormant and she fired straight up. Instant start!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4332_4.jpg
Haven't seen that phenomenon for a while... I'm glad that nightmare is off my back

[Don Kurylko]

Well, thank god for that. Now will you get out there and try out that new anchor! Damn....:rolleyes:

[dhic001]

Excellent news Mr B, hopefully this means we can expect some nice cruising threads in the near future. Better start straight away, take the 18th birthday with you.
Daniel

[John B]

Thats exactly what I was thinking Don.:D
What a ride, from a caravan in the most expensive camp site in NZ to something with Potential.

1st revolution !

Yeah Daniel , what a worry...

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

Well that's buggered my chance of becoming an international spare part smuggler.

Have fun.

[Paul Pless]

I'm now over run with turbos:rolleyes:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Riada/IMG_4329_3.jpg
hmmm... a spare turbo... failing finding an old lawn tractor to attach it to, I guess there's always the odd jaguar laying around...

[Paul Fitzgerald]

So, if that new turbo doesn't have any oil leaks, does that mean it is american rather than british?