The Yawl Picture Thread

[rbgarr]

Bequia: http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/show...ghlight=bequia

[Hwyl]

Thanks Dave, I generallly like rudders at the back of boats, but for "Bequia" I'll make an exception

[rbgarr]

Originally Posted by Hwyl

Thanks Dave, I generallly like rudders at the back of boats, but for "Bequia" I'll make an exception

Do you mean at the transom or at the back of the keel?

Just wondering.

[jak3b]

William Snaith's Figaro III was my favorite yawl.Any pictures of a Geerd Hendel "Maine coast yawl"?

[rbgarr]

Here's the Farnham Butler "Maine Coast Yawl": http://books.google.com/books?id=rh-...20yawl&f=false

[Paul Pless]

Given his avatar, Tim ought to absolutely love this design.

[CWSmith]

I have a very basic question: When sailing sloops the windward helm comes on as the wind speed increases. It's mostly because the boat heels and a little because the sails deform. So you open the leach and move sail fullness forward. What do you do with a yawl? Do you rig for a leeward helm in low winds and use the mizzen to balance the rig, then slowly ease the mizzen as the windward helm develops? I've always been told the mizzen is mostly for balance, but I don't see how you work it. Sorry for such a basic question.

[CharlieCobra]

As the wind comes up, you drop the mizzen entirely, especially beating. When it gets to the point where you have to reef the main a second or third time, you hoist the mizzen, douse the main and run either jib and jigger or if it's really up, staysail and jigger (mizzen). Both my staysail and mizzen have reef points, tiny as they are. The nice thing about Yawls is the combination's of sails you can choose and use.

[zertgold]

Lady Joan
A 25' 7" V-Bottom Canoe Yawl
By William Atkin




http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Sail/LadyJoan.html

[wizbang 13]

Some ketchy yawls here

[martin schulz]

No Yawl thread without the WILLOW WREN!

[jak3b]

Originally Posted by rbgarr

Here's the Farnham Butler "Maine Coast Yawl": http://books.google.com/books?id=rh-...20yawl&f=false

Ah Thank you!,Thats it.I was confused as to who designed her.Thank you.

[Presuming Ed]

S&S 57' Argyll.

[bloggs68]

A Caledonia Yawl ( I mean ketch..... I mean yawl.........I mean boat with a mast and sail at the back of the boat.......)



Man, some nice pictures here

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[PeterSibley]

Another Blue Moon ....from our friend in Turkey .

[MPM]

Navigatrix, 1957 Aage Nielsen-designed yawl built by Paul Luke:

[rbgarr]

Originally Posted by jak3b

Ah Thank you!,Thats it.I was confused as to who designed her.Thank you.

Torna is owned by a forum member (Torna is his forum name). Last I heard the boat was in Vermont undergoing repairs and restoration.

[Paul G.]

[PeterSibley]

Thanks Paul ...a lovely photo !

[Bark]

These aren't the greatest photos, but here's Lotus, my Robb Lion Yawl. At least I've always thought she was a yawl! Originally a sloop, I'm told, but converted in the 60s to a yawl when racing rules changed. Mizzen mast is aft of the rudder post, but mizzen sail is considerably larger than, say, a Concordia, and I believe was intended to provide power, not just balance.

[John B]

I think its easy to find plenty of yawls which have the mizzen forward of the rudder post using all that criteria earlier on it the thread . I doubt if you'll find a ketch with its mizzen behind the rudder post though. So your Robb is definitely a yawl as far as I'm concerned, regardless as to the size of the mizzen.

You often find racers converted to yawls for cruising, some of them have two configurations available by simply having a second mainsail and boom, plus mizzen gear of course and then their old long boom and racing main sitting in the shed . Thats what I would have done for Waione probably, I always saw a ya'll in her future.

here's one
The 1893 Bailey cutter Viking , re rigged as a yawl



Pic taken a week or so ago.. she's been a bermudan ketch for a few decades now.

[webfoot]

My 1955 Paul Luke, Phoenix, last time she was in the water. It will be a few years before I get her to this stage again.

IMG]http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq304/cmerriam/Phoenix/p1b.jpg[/IMG]

[PaulC]

For Webfoot:



You need to remove the "img"from the beginning and end of the address and then paste it in here (Watch for an extra "HTTP" here too.)

[TimH]

Originally Posted by Presuming Ed

S&S 57' Argyll.

One of my favorites. There was a story about her in Cruising World in the early to mid 80s called "The Skipper has a Beguiling Mistress".

[TonyH]

43 foot Norman Wright yawl Capricornia.

[jlaprad]

I love my balanced lug yawl rig on my Caledonia. Last week in my friends Caledonia we were sailing with full main and it got real breezy real fast. We hove to and tied a double reef in the main and the mizzen kept us into the wind with no problem. Hoisted the double reefed main and continued on, sailed 20 miles from South Haven to Saugatuck in under 3 hrs 40 min.

[willmarsh3]

I have one like Brian Palmer's



But I think the Blue Moon is absolutely stunning.

[downthecreek]

Originally Posted by jlaprad

Last week in my friends Caledonia we were sailing with full main and it got real breezy real fast. We hove to and tied a double reef in the main and the mizzen kept us into the wind with no problem. Hoisted the double reefed main and continued on, sailed 20 miles from South Haven to Saugatuck in under 3 hrs 40 min.

Lovely pic!

My boat (disgracefully, frozen snot, but I love her) has her deck stepped mizzen directly above the rudder post. She is, however, most surely a ketch in terms of rig balance and hull form.

You have put your finger on one of my favourite aspects of this rig. Hit by a squall (as I was a couple of summers ago, suddenly, violently, out of a clear blue sky and with a crew of young dinghy sailors from the little sailing charity with which I am involved) she will heave to perfectly and sit quietly while I reef, or drop the mainsail, and never miss a beat.

She handles well under jib and mizzen, but I would hesitate to use this combination in really heavy weather, when I prefer a deep reefed mainsail.

Haven't seen many mizzen staysails amongst these pictures, though. That's one of the best reasons for a wee sail at the blunt end (pace, designers and owners of lovely double enders) Mine is a temperamental gal, but I love her.

[BBSebens]

Concordia Yawl, Irene


And our good friend Sarah
I hope I didn't jump the gun on Margo.

Its not a yawl thread without a few more Concordias.

[Duncan Gibbs]

I'm surprised no one has posted a shot of Aida yet:



Question: How does one ensure adequate strength across the cabin top in both Aida and the Concordias where the main is stepped? BIG chunky bulkheads?

[Garret]

My brother's 1946 Casey:

[davidagage]

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs

Question: How does one ensure adequate strength across the cabin top in both Aida and the Concordias where the main is stepped? BIG chunky bulkheads?

The mast goes all the way through the cabin top to the step on the sole. The cabin top bares no mast load at all.

[Duncan Gibbs]

I realise that the mast is stepped at the sole or keelson, but there must still be considerable force exerted to 'collapse' the space between the chain plates and the mast on the windward rail without a deck beam working to separate them. So it's not the downward load I'm thinking about, but rather the lateral forces at work. Surely the cabin/hull must be reinforced at the station where the mast is stepped?

[rbgarr]

Yes, it is. Mast partners, cabin beams, bracing and hanging knees are options.

[mizzenman]

Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs

Question: How does one ensure adequate strength across the cabin top in both Aida and the Concordias where the main is stepped? BIG chunky bulkheads?

The main mast of our yawl is steped on the cabin top. The mast foot of metal bridges between two bulkyheads, with an aditional compression post directly under the mast.

On a hard beat the forces from the mast distort the bulkyhead enough so that the door through the bulkyhead can't be closed.

[Garret]

Originally Posted by rbgarr

Yes, it is. Mast partners, cabin beams, bracing and hanging knees are options.

PMJI - (but I will anyway ;-).

The mast partner setup for the main is no different that that of a sloop or cutter. The mizzen is more often deck stepped (though by no means always) - as it has far lower loads.

Garret

[Fritz Koschmann]

Bolger Skillygalee

[JimConlin]

A great photo for illustrating that in a cat-yawl, as the main is reefed, the COE doesn't move much. That's a feature.