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09-17-2009, 10:35 PM
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Muscle Cars
We have some fancier car threads ... but I came across a car like this today ... gets me fired up for some classic American Muscle!
 Buick GSX! Neat car ... and a REAL GSX! Most are knock-offs, which is fine by me, but it is neat to see a real one. Also saw one of these:  And finally: (with only 22k miles on it!)  Anybody have any other favorites?
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09-17-2009, 10:52 PM
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Re: Muscle Cars
1966 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88.
 I owned one back in 1976. A screaming demon it was.
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09-17-2009, 10:58 PM
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Re: Muscle Cars
If your talking Olds muscle you have to acknowledge the 442.
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09-17-2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: Muscle Cars
I saw a Dodge Charger in the parking lot today. Hemi. It had something written on the windshield, in those big letters, like "I'm the baddest of the bad." That wasn't it, but something like that.
I took more than a passing glance. The styling was good. Kudos to whomever young designers are working Chrysler's design studios today.
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09-17-2009, 11:51 PM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-17-2009, 11:55 PM
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09-18-2009, 12:13 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
Enter the mouse.
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09-18-2009, 12:21 AM
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Good stuff. The GS Buick in particular would be high on my list; a very comfortable touring 2 door with locomotive grade torque, decent performance, and made from materials undoubtly superior to its peers. Maybe a Brembo upgrade from Muscle Car nirvana.
The GTO convertible sure brings back memories - at 17, I had a friend with a '66 4-speed, replete with chrome side pipes  . He very selflessly taught me, in his car, the art of speed-shifting. Or at least the parts that start with "don't lift, just move quickly". Great fun, at the time  The late '60s Shelby reminds me of the summer we had a dark blue GT500KR convertible. '68 428 SCJ, if memory serves. Cool car, no doubt, but really less than remarkable in the excitement department. Particularly when compared to my personal "most exciting muscle car" experience, which was a '64 Impala SS-409 4-speed with dual Carter AFBs, much like this one:  Don't get me started on the virtues of the Chrysler 300b, c,. and d
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09-18-2009, 12:27 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
428 CobraJet was a boat anchor, and not even as good a one at that as a Danforth of a quarter the weight.
427 OHC, now, that's a whole 'nother story!
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09-18-2009, 12:38 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-18-2009, 12:41 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
dodge coronet super. black an burgundy. bearing ed, bored, balanced and blueprinted. with the fuel lines ported through the block of her hemi.
grave digger clutch, an a rock crusher tranny.
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09-18-2009, 07:25 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
This is the one I want.
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09-18-2009, 07:57 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
I can't believe a subaru has shown up on this thread!
Those are VERY fast cars, BTW!Mark- a 1970 Barracuda? Good choice!
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09-18-2009, 08:04 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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Il est aussi facile de se tromper soi-même sans s’en apercevoir, qu’il est difficile de tromper les autres sans qu’ils s’en aperçoivent. François de La Rochefoucauld
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09-18-2009, 08:09 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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We are the children of concrete and steel This is the place where the truth is concealed This is the time when the lie is revealed Everything is possible, but nothing is real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1D6nJtMa60
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09-18-2009, 08:22 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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Rice is nice, but can it take a punch?
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We are the children of concrete and steel This is the place where the truth is concealed This is the time when the lie is revealed Everything is possible, but nothing is real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1D6nJtMa60
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09-18-2009, 08:23 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
COPO 9561 ZL-1
 
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09-18-2009, 08:24 AM
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Nice.
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09-18-2009, 08:36 AM
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I was raised just outside of Boston. We are taught at an early age its not defensive driving but instead offensive driving. If your fenders are straight you are a pussy.
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09-18-2009, 08:40 AM
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VERY fast, popeye ... wouldn't be caught dead in one! Not my cup o'tea! I guess it's more the drivers that I don't like ... mainly kids in those driving like idiots around me!
Nice Camaro, Paul!  Remember, we are talking muscle cars here ... No replacement for displacement! (except in the Grand National) Yee-hah, and all that burnin' rubber stuff!
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09-18-2009, 08:43 AM
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Speaking of GNX's, that engine actually produced well over 300hp! Formal stuff said 250hp, though.
The next car I buy will be a 1987 IROC-Z with the 350tpi motor ... I'll have it restored to new! These are the new collectors ... and they can still be had on the cheap! Under 5-grand in most cases! This is my latest investment tip!
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09-18-2009, 08:46 AM
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and , as much as i can appreciate muscle cars , there is no substitute for straight pipes coming out the back of one of those things ..  .. i like lateral acceleration and braking performance more
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sounds completely unpossible
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09-18-2009, 08:49 AM
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09-18-2009, 08:56 AM
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 Personally I think the best values in performance collector cars are mid 1980 Porsche 911s and C4 Corvettes with the Lotus built LT-5. Both can be found in good to excellent condition with low miles for less than $15,000. Both make good daily drivers.
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09-18-2009, 09:02 AM
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I had an 86 911 a few years back ... Turbo with whale tail. GREAT looking car! Guards Red on Black! Wide body ... but I guess that model was all wide body!
Those IROCs and/or GTAs were certainly not engineering or quality masterpieces, but I still love them. With modern brakes and suspension components they are pretty darned good performers, though. Besides, I just want one. When I turned 16, I got a 1985 Mustang GT, red on red, automatic. That was a fast little car in the day! It was a good birthday!
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09-18-2009, 09:16 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
I have to say my all time favorite was a new 78' Nova four door with the 9C1 police package. My father needed a car for a six month job and the intent was I would take it over. I did a lot of research and at that time we all know options to go fast were limited.
After some discussion he agreed and we ordered one in red. Soon after he got it he was done with it and I took possession. I went to Gussie Zeidermans and layed out the cash to have the motor gone over. Emissions gone and new carb it probally topped near 270 hp. I took a kleenex box and glued it in the center of the rear seat deck as the state and federal boys did that to conceal the antenna in their Dic cars. Nothing like a sleeper and for a short haired sailor wearing Ray bans it was funny to have cops wave at you as I drove buy. I threw that car around hard for years and loved it the whole time. I found an ad that shows it exactly. 
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09-18-2009, 09:18 AM
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what was i watching on tv just the other night .. oh yeah , 'smokey and the bandit'
watching those guys horse their big ass 70's cars around , it was priceless
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sounds completely unpossible
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09-18-2009, 09:27 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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09-18-2009, 09:33 AM
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 Be prepared to spend a few $$$ to get it back to original if that's your goal. I wasn't able to make mine 100% original but it's "authentic". Seats are out of a '99 and are a big improvement over the OEM '87 seats. Exhaust is 3" Magnaflow. Throttle Body is Holley. MAF is Granatelli. The only other tell it isn't 100% original is the MP3 Jack in the stereo.  I think if I tallied it all up I'm up to about $9K. The only thing left to do now is new carpet & floor mats. 
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09-18-2009, 09:41 AM
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Burt and an F-Body at their absolute cheesiest: Hooper
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09-18-2009, 09:46 AM
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09-18-2009, 10:22 AM
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You may go stand in the corner. Thats not classic American muscle now is it?
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09-18-2009, 10:31 AM
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depending on what you need to do with your car sometimes muscle doesn't mean total Hp.
 My father, knowing that I'm a total idiot, put a rollbar on before I started driving it. Slowest in school, first up the mountain.
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09-18-2009, 10:31 AM
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-18-2009, 10:49 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
RAM SRT-10
The main attraction of the SRT-10 is its engine, which is an 8.3 Liter V10 Viper Engine. This engine produces 500 bhp (373 kW; 507 PS) at 5,600 rpm and 525 lb·ft (712 N·m) of torque at 4,200 rpm. The regular cab, with a total wet weight of 5,100 lb (2,300 kg), making the truck reach a top speed of 155 mph (249 km/h), and can accelerate the regular cab SRT-10 from 0 to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 4.8 seconds and the Quad Cab version in 4.9 seconds. It runs the 1/4 mile in 13.19 sec @ 105 mph MT.
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-18-2009, 10:49 AM
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The American muscle car I lusted after as a teenager was the '67-'68 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442. Did they make it with a convertible top? If they did, I'm cashing in my pension and going on a road trip! He he.
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09-18-2009, 10:54 AM
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Re: Muscle Cars
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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Ish - they sure did. Bring a BIG check. I wanna ride when you do
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09-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
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09-18-2009, 11:26 AM
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SRT-10 is a beast of a truck!
Too bad they are so light on the back end ... they get to hopping pretty quickly is one is not careful. Got a red one at the store right now ... 2004 with 6-speed ... the quad cab is the automatic version! That is a truck that brings true meaning to "sometimes you have to turn right to go left!" We did some drifting in it the other day around a back building ... hopefully the new owner, whomever that may be, won't mind/notice!
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